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   Re: Mysteries of God (1/4)   
   18 Dec 04 21:08:55   
   
   From: nomorewormsorspam@charter.net   
      
   This is a test, I new and trying to figure out how to add a reply to a post   
   with out deleting the post, sorry all.   
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   news:1103422338.841642.96540@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...   
   > A TRILOGY ON METAPHYSICS AND THE HUMAN SOUL   
   > (Dedicated to the Honor and the Glory of God)   
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   > A SHORT TREATISE ON THE REALITY OF GOD   
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   > God is the ultimate reality. He has spun the universes into existence   
   > and has created all other beings. As humans, we too had our beginning   
   > from God. Like Plato and Socrates, I believe that we pre-existed in a   
   > spiritual realm prior to being born into this world. Unfortunately the   
   > church fathers, with the exceptions of Origen and Augustine, rejected   
   > this view as an overreaction to the heresies of gnosticism and   
   > neoplatonism that threatened to subvert the Gospel. How do I know of   
   > this pre-existence? I have very faint memories of a spiritual existence   
   > before being born into this world. My children spoke of this of this   
   > existence when they were small. I have heard of other 2-4 year old   
   > children being able to talk of their own pre-existence in the spiritual   
   > realm prior to their earthly birth, when carefully questioned about it.   
   > One couple I know of had three boys who each spoke of having been with   
   > God and the angels prior to birth without any prompting from their   
   > parents when they were small. Evidently as people age and develop,   
   > these memories are overlaid with countless earthly memories and are   
   > largely forgotten.   
   > One may ask why are we here and forced to leave that spiritual realm.   
   > I believe that the answer lies in the fall of Lucifer from Heaven along   
   > with a third of the angels. It is my own belief that human spirits were   
   > originally intended to be part of Lucifer's cadre in the spiritual   
   > realm. Once Lucifer fell, there was no further need for our existence   
   > in the spiritual realm, since we had been created to serve Lucifer in   
   > carrying out his heavenly responsibilities. Lucifer's disobedience led   
   > to our own eventual banishment from Heaven, even though we were not   
   > involved in his revolt against God. God in His infinite mercy has   
   > brought us to this world to perfect our redemption. He is bound by His   
   > own spiritual laws in the eternal realm, but at the temporal level, He   
   > can rewrite our destiny through His plan for our redemption. Had not   
   > Adam and Eve disobeyed God, this plan would have been much simpler and   
   > salvation would have been universal for all mankind. When that couple   
   > listened to Lucifer rather than obey God, suddenly salvation became   
   > much more difficult. Man had chosen sides and was no longer just an   
   > innocent bystander thus bringing condemnation on all mankind who was to   
   > be born on earth from that time forward.   
   > Man himself had sinned against God and lost his opportunity for an   
   > easier salvation. To put it in the vernacular, man really blew it. Now   
   > man's disobedience had to dealt with in a manner satisfying God,   
   > fulfilling the new parameters now required for our salvation and permit   
   > our return to the spiritual realm (Heaven) after leaving this earthly   
   > sojourn. Christ, the second person of the Godhead, came to earth in the   
   > form of a man to die a sacrificial death for our redemption so that by   
   > believing in Him and on His death, we can be redeemed and made new   
   > spiritual beings fit for His kingdom. Through Christ, the Holy Spirit   
   > creates us anew and we are reshaped into His image, no longer designed   
   > to follow after Lucifer and his entourage.   
   > Praise be to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit for their gift of   
   > salvation through the Son's loving sacrifice of Himself on the cross,   
   > the Father's willingness to send Him and the Spirit's perseverance in   
   > causing us to believe.   
   > Some have a difficult time grasping the concept of the Trinity. The   
   > Trinity is the three distinct, separate, yet simultaneously occurring   
   > dynamic states in which God exists and through which He expresses   
   > Himself. It may be easier to understand the Trinity by the functions   
   > they perform. The Father is the Creator of His creation. The Son   
   > controls the interface relationship between the Creator and His   
   > creation. The Holy Spirit permeates the creation carrying out the will   
   > of the Father and the Son.   
   > Others may ask how does God create worlds and universes, i.e. this   
   > temporal existence. I believe the new physics gives us an insight into   
   > God's methods. The big bang which began our universe was caused by a   
   > large quantum fluctuation. These fluctuations are believed by some   
   > cosmologists to be power spikes in a tremendous quantum field of   
   > incredible intensity. Since there are undoubtedly many of these power   
   > spikes, and at the top of each powerful enough spike is a created   
   > universe, there are probably many overlapping sister universes to our   
   > universe in existence at this very moment. They are separated from each   
   > other only by the different quantum time value that each universe   
   > possesses. Thus we can not see or sense them nor can they see or sense   
   > us. You may ask how does God fit into the overall scheme of these   
   > things. I truly believe that the energy that creates and drives this   
   > quantum field issues forth from the mind of God even as He speaks the   
   > Word. The beauty of God and His methods is that while we may seem far   
   > removed from where God is, He is only a prayer away. He loves us and   
   > cares for us, who believe on His dear Son, and longs that all mankind   
   > will come to a saving faith in His beloved Son; but God wants our love   
   > freely given and not given through coercion. He gives us His Holy   
   > Spirit to guide us and lead us into paths of righteousness for His   
   > namesake. All that is required of us is simple faith in our living Lord   
   > and Savior Jesus Christ.   
   > I look forward to the day that I return to the spiritual realm from   
   > which we have come and can worship, adore, praise and glorify Him   
   > forever. Our Lord made a way back where there was no way, so that we   
   > may dwell with Him and enjoy Him forever. Praise be to God that He has   
   > not left us nor forsaken us, but through His death established His plan   
   > for our salvation when we come to believe on His shed blood.   
   > Hallelujah, God is truly great and greatly to be worshiped in spirit   
   > and truth.   
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   > In awe of the Living God,   
   > Richard E. Franing   
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   > AN INTERPRETATION OF GENESIS ONE   
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   > I've decided to take a shot at this one, so you folks need to get the   
   > stake ready along with the rope, wood and matches because I'm about to   
   > reveal my pet theory concerning the first chapter of Genesis. In second   
   > Peter 3:8, we find the following in the RSV version: "But do not ignore   
   > this fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years   
      
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