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From: icono@cox.net
"Y" wrote in message
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> icono wrote:
>> "GodFriendly" wrote in message
>> news:a5440818.0412212137.4c79e721@posting.google.com...
>> > Hi! Quick question: I've heard some people say Blacks suffer from
> the
>> > curse of Ham and this somehow explain why they have difficulties
>> > achieving, etc.
>>
>> Blacks do NOT have trouble acheiving.
>>
>> Those raised in some cultures do have trouble. The culture can be
> within
>> another culture or it can be in another nation or continent.
>>
>> >
>> > This thought is very common even though when I checked the Bible it
>> > wasn't Ham who was cursed but his son, Canaan and Canaan's
> descendants
>> > who were probably more mid-brown skinned, not Black?!
>> >
>> > Your views and comments please folks.
>>
>> The general and only tracing that MIGHT be done is to trace the
> western and
>> near eaast cultures against the oriental or mid African cultures.
> Very
>> little is taught about the FACT that all technical and unique
> advances have
>> come from what we might call the western culture, freedom culture,
>> capitalistic culture, Arab, Judeo, Christian culture.
>
> Could be becasue there is little to teach.
>
>> Put a born into any of the above cultures a white, black, oriental
> and all
>> have an equal chance. Put a white, black or oriental into another
> anti
>> western culture within the western culture and they still fail.
>>
>> Yes, yes, yes many will say how Japan and China produce many good
> things.
>> EVERY ONE of those things was CREATED (INVENTED) elswhere.
>
> Those damn sneaky Orientals they steal everything even the advances of
> the superior white guy. But oh please give some examples.
>
> Let's see in Asia there were advances in ship construction,
> exploration, porcelain, moveable type printing, iron clad ships, all
> prior to same elsewhere. Then in Africa gold and bronze casting by
> Benin and Ashanti superior in quality to what was produced in Europe
> until much later and then...
>
> Try looking without preconceived notions of superiority (i.e.
> prejudice/self promotion).
Try giving one original thought from the far east. You haven't.
I was quite careful to indicate "culture and NOT white, oriental, black.
Your bigotry is showing or your very PC education from never never land is
showing. Either way it boils down to bigotry.
You ALMOST got it right by beginning to atttribute advances ( I didn't say
ADVANCES, I said original thought)) to some catalyst. The catalyst is and
was the culture.
>
> Cultures and peoples interacted; cultures were and are very fluid. The
> right time, place, ruler and catalyst like European Protestant movement
> helped Western Europe make technical advances.
> Protestants were interested in literacy and printing to spread their
> beliefs.
> Chinese exploration died when the emperor decided it was threatening.
> The Pope stopped Galileo...
Boy does that sound like University tripe from some universities. PURE CRAP
>
>> Ham's decendants were still a "protected" tribe / race.
>
> How do you define "race"?
You need to learn a little about original thought before you speak. You
showed NOTHING originating in the far East.
To some it means color of skin. Does that confuse you?
Tribe and race do not mean the same thing unless one were to infer that a
particular race had a particular "father / mother"
Do we need to define father or mother to you.
Culture and race have nothing to do with each other, unless one is a bigot
or reverse bigot giving an "excuse" for a presupposed deficiency in a race.
>
>> >
>> > BlackMan
>> > http://www.blackmag.co.uk/blackforum/index.php?showtopic=862
>
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