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   From: DY602@hotmail.com   
      
   "Your bigotry is showing or your very PC education from never never   
   land is showing."   
      
   Only younger people like you received a PC education. In my age group   
   PC education did not exist.   
      
   "Either way it boils down to bigotry."   
      
   How?   
      
   "You ALMOST got it right by beginning to atttribute advances ( I   
   didn't say ADVANCES, I said original thought)) to some catalyst. The   
   catalyst is and  was the culture."   
      
   No. What you wrote was "Very little is taught about the FACT that all   
   technical and unique advances have come from what we might call the   
   western culture, freedom culture, capitalistic culture, Arab, Judeo,   
   Christian culture." And then you wrote "Yes, yes, yes many will say   
   how Japan and China produce many good things. EVERY ONE of those things   
   was CREATED (INVENTED) elswhere." Invented and technical advances   
   indicates *things* not abstract ideas.   
      
   Please post some sample ideas attributed to Asia that actually   
   originated in western Europe.   
      
   Do you believe that cultures did/do not interact?   
      
   Do you believe that the European Protestant movement did not move   
   literacy and printing forward in Europe? If so what did?   
      
   "You showed NOTHING originating in the far East."   
      
   Lets see what I mentioned was porcelain (look in any European museum),   
   moveable type printing in (China Japan, Korea), Chinese exploration   
   (e.g. extensive voyages prior to mid 15th Cent), iron clad ships   
   (Korea) Adm Yi against Japan long before same in the west. I also   
   mentioned superior gold and bronze lost wax casting produced by Benin   
   and Ashanti (the areas near present day Ghana/Benin). Inventions take a   
   thought process and cultural allowances.   
      
   "To some it means color of skin. Does that confuse you?"   
   "Tribe and race do not mean the same thing unless one were to infer   
   that a   
   particular race had a particular "father / mother" Do we need to define   
   father or mother to you."   
      
   I didn't say that tribe race and ethnicity do mean the same thing.   
   You really are an angry reactionary person aren't you. Regardless you   
   do need to make sense to be able to communicate.   
   Skin color is not a definition of race. Race is an outdated concept   
   that originally had relevance only in biological classificatin anyway.   
   It did come in very handy for Western European right down to Adolf   
   Hitler to justify racism and visions of superiority. Suggest you take a   
   look at:   
      
   http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/race-definition.html   
      
   http://www.bgsu.edu/colleges/edhd/LPS/EDFI/408/glossary.htm   
   race: "a classification that is not typically chosen but instead   
   assigned by others; defined most often by physical characteristics"   
   (McNergney & Herbert, 1998, p. 552).   
   racism: beliefs, attitudes, behaviors that privilege one race over   
   another race   
      
   http://www.fedstats.gov/qf/meta/long_68183.htm   
   http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn?stage=1&word=race   
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race   
      
   But more relevant to what you are posting enter the word ethnocentrism   
   in google and read a while.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)