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|    A MESSAGE FROM A MUSLIM (1/4)    |
|    18 Mar 05 03:03:41    |
      From: newsgroupaddress@hotmail.com              PLEASE COPY AND PASTE THIS ARTICLE TO AS MANY WEBSITES, GOOGLE AND       YAHOO NEWSGROUPS, AND EMAIL CONTACTS AS YOU CAN. IF EVERYONE WHO READS       IT POSTS IT TO JUST A COUPLE OF GROUPS/PEOPLE EACH IT WILL FOREVER       STAY ON THE NET TO HIGHLIGHT THE ISSUES BELOW…PLEEEEESE DO YOUR       BIT!…MANY THANKS AND ENJOY THE READ.              The Fundamentals of Christianity and Islam                     After reading many postings on Christian newsgroups and Muslim       newsgroups I have noticed there are many posts which are aimed at       converting people from one faith to their own faith but very little       effort being made to understand the differences between the       Monotheistic faiths of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Above all       there is a mass of postings made by Christians attempting to teach       Muslims the message of Jesus and Christianity. I myself am a Muslim       (Islam) and find it very disturbing that so many Christians seem to       have little to no understanding of just what it is that Muslims       believe.              Perhaps as a Christian you have no wish to understand either since you       have found a set of teachings that you believe are the truth and have       therefore dismissed all other religions as being false religions. As a       Muslim my religion is Islam and the scripture that I try to live my       life by is the Qur'an. In the Qur'an it is written that humans should       question all things and that God expects and encourages this as the       way to find truth. Like Christians we also believe that when you here       the truth (be it gods will) you will know it and recognize it if you       use reason. I am sure that as Christians you will believe the same       thing since to encourage blind belief in something is simply to       encourage mental suicide. The aim of writing this post is not to       attempt to convert Christians to Islam but to point out a difference       in beliefs that will hopefully bring about greater understanding and       harmony between the two faiths…As a Christian you can only benefit by       knowing the mindset of someone of a different faith…who knows you may       even end up converting someone with this information.               I know that I have benefited by reading Bible text to understand       where Christian beliefs and mentality is coming from. I am about to       attempt to give a crash course on the central Muslim belief without       boring you with pages and pages of detail…I am going to try to explain       why I choose Islam over Christianity as my religion. Before I put my       case I would like to repeat that both Christians and Muslims believe       that when you here truth you know it and cannot find fault in it nor       deny it. As a Muslim I believe that gods people do not live in one       grouping of people on the planet…ie…..come judgment day it is not       going to be all those who called themselves Muslims, or Christians, or       Jews that are going to ascend to heaven but it will be a very mixed       composition of people that does not take into account such superficial       things as religious label be it Jew Christian or Muslim, country of       residence, or color of skin, Everyone's fate will be decided by their       actions and the words that flow from their hands and lips. I believe       this is what the prophets were teaching in scripture…one such example       being Jesus when he implied: not all who come with my message are of       Gods people (or something to that effect). Everyone's fate will be       determined by Gods judgment and not human judgment since God is the       knower of all things both seen and unseen in the heart. To suggest       such a theory as come judgment day all the Muslims/Christians/Jews       living in such and such a country will be "the righteous" and all the       rest will face the punishment of God for their sins is a very       simplistic black and white view and is far away from a rational mind       and the teachings of any religious texts. It is also a very dangerous       fanatical way of thinking. Life would be a lot easier if everyone's       labels matched the way they behaved and what was in their hearts but       sadly this is far from reality. I think the following quote sums up       this belief:              "Religion is not a club you can join. Your religion is something you       will drift in and out of throughout your life dependant on your       behavior. Your fate salvation and guidance in this life and the next       are not decided by the label you go by. be it agnostic Christian, Jew,       or Muslim, but by your actions, the words that flow from your lips,       and what you truly believe in your heart. This is my religion, your       religion, and everybody's religion......the name of this religion and       teaching is XXXXX"              Of course this viewpoint is not unique to Islam, which is why I put       XXXXX instead of Islam, I'm sure many Christians reading this can       relate to this wisdom when they read it, and I'm sure many would tell       me this is Christianity too.              Many Christians would be surprised at reading the Qur'an…….the       scripture is very much the same as the bible and tells the same       stories of the profits and has the same moral messages…sometimes with       slight variation in historic events but mostly the same. Muslims Claim       that Mohamed was the last profit and was given the message of God so       that he can correct the human Corruption of the original message of       the prophets before him, much the same as Christians believe Jesus was       given the message of God to confirm what the Jews had already       received………The question begs to be asked What was this message that       god wants us to understand? you can only look at the scripture of the       Jews, Christians, and Muslims to decide….what were the prophets       teaching? What is the common theme found in all the prophets'       teachings?              Here is the Muslim Version and the crash course in Qur'an!              Muslims believe that gods message was that humans should not make       partners with God. And that there is only one God and all praise       belongs to Him alone. As Christians I am sure this is not a new       concept to you either and that you have read this many times in your       own scripture. But what exactly is meant by "do not make partners with       God"?. Muslims believe that by making "intercession" between a human       and God is the one thing that defines being a believer or someone who       is astray. In other words by assigning authority/power to anything       other than God is in direct contradiction of Gods will and message of       unity. When humans assign symbols, statues, create hierarchies in       society with saints and kings, and create semi gods like the golden       calf the Jews created when Moses went up the mountain or are tempted       by other values such as Abraham was we are at the same time creating       division among people and causing people to see others as different       due to the limitations of our senses. If you take away Christian       crucifixes, saints (holy men), statues of Jesus, (holy buildings and       shrines), semi gods, pictures of idol worship and all forms of       "Partners with God" what differences are remaining between those that              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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