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   Andrew W to Christ Crucified   
   Re: Gospel Tract ( How to be Saved ) - T   
   23 Jul 05 16:25:46   
   
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   From: removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au   
      
   "Christ Crucified"  wrote in message   
   news:NZdEe.19968$NU2.6953@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...   
   > The Love of God   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > The Fall of Man:   
   >   
   > In the beginning Adam and Eve were given the   
   > opportunity to prove their love to God by   
   > (obeying his commands).   
   >   
   > God told Adam in the Garden of Eden:   
   > "You are free to eat from any tree in the   
   > garden; but you must not eat from the tree of   
   > the knowledge of good and evil, for when you   
   > eat of it you will surely die." (Genesis   
   > Chapter 2:16-17). But man in his disobedience   
   > to the word of God ate the fruit from the tree   
   > and allowed sin and death into the world.   
   > (Romans 5:12). And since we are all descendants   
   > of Adam and Eve we all are guilty of sin.   
      
   Fiction, fiction, fiction.   
   Its all allegory and symbology.   
   It didn't actually happen as such.   
      
   >   
   > So we see that whenever we disobey the Word of   
   > God - We Sin. And this is why the world is so   
   > full of unhappiness, sorrow and pain.   
      
   That's not why there is sorrow and pain in the world.   
   Its because we are in the process of experiencing all that can be   
   experienced.   
   You have to experience the dark before you can see value in the light.   
   We're not doing anything wrong.   
   Christianity has made it sound like we're all a bunch of reprehensible   
   cosmic criminals or something. We're not.   
   Judeo Christianity has become grossly distorted over the millennia.   
      
   > Adam and   
   > Eve brought sin and death into the world by   
   > choosing to set aside the commandment of God.   
      
   If they were under command then they had no free will.   
      
   > Adam and Eve set up their own definition of   
   > right and wrong and did what "seemed right" in   
   > their own mind. They thought happiness could be   
   > found apart from God.   
      
   That's what's called thinking for yourself.   
   God should have been proud that his creations were finally starting to use   
   their heads, and he probably was until Christianity came along and started   
   distorting the story.   
      
   >   
   > But God says "There is a way that seems right   
   > to a man, but in the end it leads to death."   
   > (Proverbs 14:12)   
      
   Using ones brain does not lead to death.   
   That's just another Christian lie added into the scriptures later to scare   
   people into the churches.   
      
   >   
   > The world is full of people doing their own   
   > thing. But God has concluded "All under sin".   
   > (Galatians 3:22)(KJV)   
      
   "Doing ones own thing" is what's known as being an individual.   
   There's nothing wrong with that. Its part of being a human.   
   Do you want to be a robot all your life?   
      
   >   
   > From God's Love and Compassion for mankind   
   > there came a time when he desired a   
   > relationship with man - but sin prevented that.   
   > So God in his infinite wisdom came up with a   
   > plan whereby a person's sins could be forgiven.   
   >   
   > In the Old Testament of the Bible we see that   
   > the blood of animals was used to forgive the   
   > sins of man.   
   >   
      
   Most people can forgive others without blood and all the big drama.   
   Why can't the bible god?   
      
   >   
   > Sin Offerings: (Leviticus 4:27-35)   
   >   
   > "If a person commits a sin unintentionally and   
   > does what is forbidden in any of the commands   
   > of the Lord, he is guilty." The individual who   
   > committed a sin against God had to bring a   
   > female goat without defect (flaw). He was to   
   > lay his hands on the head of the goat (sin   
   > offering) and slaughter it. Then the Priest   
   > came and dipped his finger into the blood and   
   > put it on the horns of God's Altar. Next, the   
   > fat from the goat was taken and burned on the   
   > altar. In this way a priest was able to make   
   > atonement (putting man back in a right   
   > relationship with God) for a person who had   
   > committed a sin against the Lord - and he was   
   > forgiven.   
   >   
   > At this point some may be asking- how can blood   
   > be used to forgive sins? Because God has said:   
   > "The life of a creature is in the blood" (Lev   
   > 17:11).   
      
   Our life is not in our blood. The electrical impulses in our brains and   
   nerves are what give us life. The blood just carries the oxygen and   
   nutrients around.   
   Of course people back then didn't know that. They just saw that when a   
   person's blood ran out they died.   
   This clearly shows that the text that is attributed to God really came from   
   man.   
      
   >   
   > And "without the shedding of blood there is no   
   > forgiveness". (Hebrews 9:22)   
      
   Rubbish. People forgive each other every day without drawing blood.   
   This obsession with blood comes from the ancient pagan blood rituals.   
   Christianity's rituals clearly show its true pagan origins but Christians   
   are too brainwashed to see it.   
      
   >   
   > In the New Testament of the Bible we see that   
   > Jesus Christ (The Lamb of God) shed his blood   
   > for our sins. (1 Peter 1:18-20) (Ephesians   
   > 2:13) (Colossians 1:19-20)   
      
   Jesus performed a pagan style blood ritual too.   
   Pathetic.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > Jesus Christ (John Chapter 1)   
   >   
   >   
   > -----------------------------------------------   
   >   
   > "Just as man is destined to die once, and after   
   > that to face judgment, so Christ was sacrificed   
   > once to take away the sins of many people; and   
   > he will appear a second time, not to bear sin,   
   > but to bring salvation (deliverance) to those   
   > who are waiting for him." (Hebrews 9:27-28)   
      
   If he takes away our sins then he's nothing but a big scapegoat.   
      
      
      
      
   --   
   Andrew W.   
      
   Ask yourself this question.   
   Would you still worship God if he didn't offer a reward or threaten hell?   
   If so then why does a creator feel the need to do such? Has he no confidence   
   that his own goodness and creating abilities alone will win him love?   
      
   Religion Exposed!   
   http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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