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|    Bible John gets ready to sit in his own     |
|    06 Nov 05 06:03:34    |
      XPost: free.christians, alt.christnet.public, talk.religion       XPost: alt.bible, alt.bible.prophecy, alt.soc.culture.canada       XPost: alt.homosexual       From: mommysara@hotmail.com              http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=141455               Bible John       New User       INTRODUCTION              I am a born again Christian who chooses to fellowship with the       fundamentalist Baptists whom for the most part hold scripture (and not       culture) as the authority throughout their churches. I believe that the       bible spells the sin of homosexuality out in black and white letters, so       that even a mentally handicapped individual can understand. So sad is it       that the god of this age has and continues to blind those that are not       in the light so that to them a black and white area like homosexuality       would turn into a grey area. Donıt get me wrong about the grey areas in       the bible, as there are many. And some of the many grey areas are below.              Day of worship       Infant Baptism       The Role of Women in Ministry       Worship styles       Vegetarianism vs. eating meat       Pre Trib vs. Post Trib              But homosexuality the bible very clearly in black and white letters       condemns. But sadly homosexuality is a heavily debated issue throughout       the contemporary church. The Liberal Christian side (another word for       unbelievers) mostly seems to accept homosexuality as well as many other       sins. But the strong Bible driven fundamentalist side believes that the       bible is quite clear on its teachings of homosexuality. In this debate I       will be focusing on a number of bible verses that quite clearly condemn       homosexuality and various ways that they are translated using a number       of different translations. I do have some knowledge of the original       languages (although I admit I am not a scholar) so I can and will show       that homosexuality is a sinful act by Gods standards as clearly stated       in his written word called the Bible. Throughout my debate I will avoid       using any of the liberal paraphrases or liberal dynamic free works so       popular amongst the contemporary evangelical church of today. Such       translations include the Todayıs New International version and the       Message. While these translations are by no means synonymous with those       of the cults, they have taken away much of the teachings of the bible on       controversial issues in their attempt to be relevant to the culture.       This is the tragic translation philosophy behind these modern       translations of the bible and behind the ministry philosophy of the       contemporary evangelical and charismatic churches throughout Christendom       today. So the translations that I may use will be the following.              New International Version- Most conservative of the Dynamic free works.       This translation is not a word for word copy, but merely a thought for       thought or concept for concept copy. Unlike the TNIV it does not take       away the meanings on the controversial issues.       KJV- The oldest and perhaps most popular English translation which is       based off the Texus Receptus and Majority Texts.       NKJV- A modern translations off the KJV       NASB- The most literal English translation from the original languages.       This will be my primary translation that I will be referring to in this       debate       Holmans (HCSB       English Standard Version (ESV)              ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----       http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+       Newsgroups       ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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