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   hateenvyvermins@yahoo.com to All   
   Together We Can Save The World from Envy   
   13 Dec 05 21:02:10   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   people often hate successful people way more than they hate thieves or   
   burglars due to envy.   
      
   I'll give you an example. Say you come up with a more efficient   
   technique to increase labors' productivity. Say you create steam   
   engines, the start of western civilization as we know it. Obviously   
   this will benefits labors. Increased labor's productivity will   
   increase demand for labors that'll increase labor's market price.   
   This, however, will hurt the interest of less productive business   
   owners that already have their capitals stuck in less productive   
   industry, possibly due to some unfair governments' protection where   
   productivity doesn't matter. I can go on and on telling how this is   
   the real cause behind American civil war but that's beyond this   
   article.   
      
   So, what would the other business do? They'll want you to fail. Will   
   they honestly say that they want you to fail because you hurt their   
   business by increasing labor's salary? No. They will say that   
   increasing labor's productivity, with machinery, will require less   
   labor for the same task. This in turn will reduce demands for labors.   
   Hence, they will demand governments' official to protect less   
   productive industry. Most people do not understand how macro economy   
   work and would agree. Finally, they'll just get governments to high   
   handedly prohibit you from using better techniques.   
      
   What would you do? If you don't know better, you will probably say,   
   "Don't worry about the reduced demand for labors lah. If   
   entrepreneurs like me increase labors' productivity, then I'll make   
   even more money for every one additional labor that I hire. Hence, I   
   will hire as many labors as possible. This will create demand for   
   labors increasing their market value. So, the labors are benefited too   
   rather than hurt." Will this appease your opponents? Will they say,   
   "Oh the labors are benefited, so okay lah"? No. Your opponents'   
   real concern is that you're tough competitors. If you address the   
   pretext, they'll get even madder. They'll think, "Oh no, this guy   
   will not only do it, they'll do it big. Also he can get many people   
   to agree with him if we let them talk."   
      
   So there it goes crazier and crazier pretext outcry. You name it. Your   
   ancestors kill their savior. Your words offend their religion. A mark   
   in your body means you're a witch. Your ideas are like (pick one:   
   Nazi, Hitler, idiots, parasites, etc.)   
      
   If you successfully mate with many females and make a lot of money,   
   will less productive males say, "I hate this person because he is   
   superior and more attractive than I am"? No. They're going to say   
   that you're inferior and therefore must be sent to gas chamber,   
   concentration camps, etc. Since when being inferior is wrong anyway? We   
   all have our plusses and minus. Often inferior accusations are raised   
   against those whose real issues are quite the opposites.   
      
   What else would less desirable males competitors would say? They will   
   say a lot. They will say that polygamy, prostitution, and free sex have   
   to be illegal. Will they say that polygamy should be illegal to ration   
   females to less desirable males? No! They will say that polygamy should   
   be made illegal to "protect women." We can only wonder how any   
   adult humans can be protected from consensual choices. A variation is   
   that somehow they come up to portray consensual choices as   
   inconsensual.   
      
   What about if women circumvent that rules by emulating marriage with   
   prostitution? Well, they make prostitution illegal too. What about if   
   women just enjoy free sex? They make it illegal too, or when not,   
   they'll do their best to discourage it by saying that it's against   
   something way too difficult to disprove like "religion,"   
   "morality," "spirituality" and yada yada yada.   
      
   Children are prevented from watching enlightening movies like porn and   
   forced to watch bull shit romance movies. Such children could end up   
   trapped in very unhappy marriage when they grew older.   
      
   After that they set up child support requirements to be proportional to   
   a man's wealth. That way, welfare parasites can make, and even   
   encouraged to make, thousands of kids more than what he can afford   
   while a billionaire cannot make as many kids as he can afford. Both   
   will be better of if the welfare parasites get bigger TV and the   
   billionaires make more kids.   
      
   An innocent successful human that consensually interact will think that   
   this is a misunderstanding. "Oh so they want to protect women. It   
   seems that their concern is that the women may be coerced into   
   prostitution. Well, fine, I'll just perform prostitution in public   
   then so every body knows that no guns are being pointed to the   
   women's' head anytime." Will they be appeased? No, they'll get   
   even madder. They'll say such actions offend people, damage morality,   
   etc. etc. etc.   
   So what would you do?   
      
   You would think, "Ah may be this people do not understand that women   
   want the best genes. Let's start a scientific inquiry about what   
   women's' want. Something likes Kinsey's report, with standard   
   anonymous surveys, etc." Will they said, "Ah, now I got scientific   
   evidences. It turns out prostitution and free sex can indeed be   
   consensual. Okay, I'll make it legal then." Of course not. That's   
   not the real issue. The real issue is that poor dumb males are not   
   getting chicks and ugly women's' son will be out competed by the   
   sons of the pretty. So they'll get even madder. They will attack the   
   scientific inquiry.   
      
   Failure to recognize which accusation is envy motivated and which   
   accusation is real can be very dangerous.   
      
   You can read http://geocities.com/afriendnottohave for another detailed   
   sample of how dangerous it is to be compassionate to an obnoxious envy   
   people.   
      
   The story talks about a guy successfully getting a lot of network   
   contacts through friendly means. Then a very envy "old hag" accuses   
   the person of pretending to be her friend. The accused friendly   
   presumed this must be a misunderstanding and compassionately tries to   
   save her from embarrassment by explaining her mistakes so he doesn't   
   have to do so publicly. In which cases, the accusations simply keep   
   changing increasing the number of envy people that join force.   
      
   Wrong moves. It's dangerous to ever think an envy people is a friend   
   no matter how friendly she pretend to be. That's not the big problem   
   actually. We all tend to be friendly to many people. It's just what   
   being polite means. Of course there is a risk that a bigot envy person   
   is one of them. The real mistake is to compassionately try to appease.   
   That's just wrong wrong wrong. It's important to simply address   
   hostile envy motivated accusation with even more hostile explanation   
   explaining their true nature.   
      
   How do envy affects our society?   
      
   Bad. When smarter people see that honest ways of making money are all   
   blocked, what will they do? They'll turn into corruptors. Humans   
   maximize their profit. Each of us will get our share based on how   
   capable we are. There is no such thing as equality of result as we do   
   not have equal ability and equal choice.   
      
   Look at all countries around us and all countries all the time. From   
   the communist North Korea, the Mongol empire, the capitalistic US. In   
   all those countries, the smarter end up the richest and happiest no   
   matter what. Capitalism is, in fact, the most moderate among all those.   
   Perhaps, principles of free market is much simpler to understand than   
   the art of war or political intricacies.   
      
      
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