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   ........Let us take a look at the prophetic qualities of Jesus.   
   In Matthew 4:17 he claims that the kingdom of heaven is at hand..   
   Now, almost 2000 years later, the kingdom is still not here.   
   This claim of Jesus to return soon in order to judge the whole world   
   is all over the New Testament. Look for instance in Revelations 1:1-3,   
   idem 3:11, idem 22:6, 10-12, 20. Everywhere here is spoken about a   
   soon return and the early Christian communities were expecting the   
   return of Christ in their lifetimes, as we can read in I Corinthians   
   7:29, Romans 13:11-12, and I Peter 4:7. Their belief in a return of   
   Christ in their lifetimes was based upon very clear, not to be   
   misunderstood statements of Jesus. Look for an impressive prophesy in   
   Mark 13:24-30: "The sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give   
   her light. And the stars of heaven will fall and the powers that are   
   in heaven shall be shaken. And then they shall see the son of man   
   coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then he shall   
   send his angels and shall gather together his elect from the four   
   winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of   
   heaven ….. Verily I say to you, that this generation shall not pass   
   till all these things be done." -----See also Matthew 24:29-35 and   
   Luke 21;25-33. .   
   -.....This generation passed away almost 2000 years ago, and no one   
   has seen him coming back on the clouds to establish his kingdom of   
   peace and gather in his elected Christians.   
      
   .......In Matthew 16:27-28 Jesus says: "For the son of man shall come   
   in the glory of his father with his angels; and then he shall reward   
   every man according to his works. Verily I say unto you, there be some   
   standing here which shall not taste of death till they see the son of   
   man coming in his kingdom." See also Mark 9:1   
   .......Did anybody see him coming in his kingdom? Is every man already   
   rewarded according to his works?... But some of them would not die   
   until they would have seen him coming in his kingdom!...Are they still   
   around today?....Even Methuselah didn't live that long!   
   .,......From this we must conclude that Jesus has a very poor resume   
   as a prophet. What does the Holy Torah that the only eternal G.d gave   
   to the Jewish people say about this?   
   Deuteronomy 18:20-22: "But the prophet which shall presume to speak a   
   word in my name which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall   
   speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. And if   
   you say in your heart; how shall we know the word that the LORD has   
   not spoken? When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the   
   thing follows not, nor come to pass, this is the thing that the LORD   
   has not spoken, but the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you   
   shall not be afraid of him."   
   .......Here G.d commands the Jewish people to execute false prophets,   
   who are prophets whose prophecies do not come true. Jesus is a perfect   
   example of a prophet whose prophecy did not come true. See also the   
   prophecy concerning the three days and three nights that did not come   
   true.   
   .......And what about the miracles that he is supposed to have done?   
   Jesus placed himself in the place of G.d (John 10:30, 14:9), and he   
   demanded to be worshipped like Him (John 5:23), and people did worship   
   him (Matthew 2:11, 8:2, 14:33, John 9:38*).   
   So if he really performed these miracles, then applies to him the law   
   of G.d that says: "If there arise among you a prophet or a dreamer of   
   dreams, and giveth thee a sign or wonder, and the sign or wonder comes   
   to pass whereof he spake onto thee, saying: Let us go after other gods   
   which thou has not known, and let us serve them; Thou shall not   
   hearken to the words of that prophet or dreamer of dreams, for the   
   LORD (Y-H-W-H) your G.d proveth you, whether you love the LORD thy G.d   
   with all your heart and all your soul. You shall walk after the LORD   
   your G.d and fear Him, and keep His commandments and obey His voice,   
   and you shall serve Him and cleave to Him. And that prophet or dreamer   
   of dreams shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you   
   away from the LORD your G.d which brought you out of the land of   
   Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee   
   out of the way which the LORD thy G.d commanded thee to walk in. So   
   shall thou put the evil away from the midst of thee." Deuteronomy   
   13:1-5.   
   * If you are a Y-E-H-O-V-A-H witness, and you read these verses in the   
   translation that is made by your church, than it will not say that   
   Jesus was worshipped. It says in your "New World Translation of the   
   Holy Scriptures" that they did obeisance to him, where all other   
   translations say that he was worshipped. Since you don't believe in a   
   trinity, but only believe in the one true G.d (may his name be   
   blessed), your translation had to be made in such a way that it would   
   fit your religion. However, in Matthew 4:9-10, and in Luke 4:7-8, the   
   devil tries to entice Jesus to worship him. Jesus answers upon this   
   that G.d must be worshipped and Him alone must be rendered sacred   
   service. The Greek word proskuneo, here correctly translated in your   
   translation as "worship", is also used in these verses where it says   
   that Jesus is worshipped. You can very easily verify this by means of   
   "The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures",   
   published by your own church. This is a Greek text of the New   
   Testament, based upon the Greek text of Westcott and Hort, that has an   
   English translation alongside and underneath each Greek word. Please   
   ask your spiritual leaders why in one place the word proskuneo is   
   translated as "to worship", and in another place as "to do obeisance."   
   Since you already believe in the one true G.d, you are just one small   
   step away from being a righteous Noachide. Open your eyes and realize   
   the truth about him that you think is your Messiah and take upon you   
   all the Noachide commandments.   
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)