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   XPost: talk.politics.theory   
   From: jack_foreigner@yahoo.com   
      
   stumper wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   > Most, if not all, religions are neither democratic nor liberal.   
   > Zen as practiced by most is that way as well.   
      
   Democracy means "choice," but there is no "choice" when confronted with   
   the truth!   
      
   That's something Krishnamurti impressed upon me...a mind that chooses   
   is one that calculates and schemes and judges, all of which is simply   
   being caught up in its own net of dualism...there is never any choice   
   when the truth of the matter is perceived (I'm paraphrasing him, but   
   that's almost certainly the gist of it).   
      
   Like in kendo, you know, there's only parrying between relative equals   
   -- the true master needs only one stroke.  In the Army, it's the   
   regulars who shoot up the place; a sniper's motto is "one shot, one   
   kill."   
      
   It's funny, but there's an elegance to violence, a violence to   
   simplicity, a simplicity to truth, a truth in beauty and elegance....   
      
   > But, here and now appears to be democratic and liberal.   
      
   It also seems very much in keeping with Daoist "anarchy," the   
   laissez-faire principle....   
      
   > Do ask the enlightened about it, please.   
      
   Why?   
      
   > --   
   > ~Stumper   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)