XPost: alt.philosophy.zen, alt.society.liberalism, alt.society.kindness   
   XPost: talk.politics.theory   
   From: nojunk@nojunk.co.uk   
      
   > seems he convinced you already. " this pile of steaming offal" will not be   
   > considered a peace offer either by the Jews or by the Christians.   
   >   
   > Try again, "buddhist".   
      
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6049126.stm   
      
   Some comment from General Sir Richard Dannatt, head of the British Army, is   
   indirectly interesting. The British Army doesn't like employing nutters, and   
   the look and feel of its approach is that military solutions are a means to   
   an end, not an end in themselves.   
      
   If you examine his comments on occupation and the use of force, you'll see   
   he concedes that both can exacerbate a situation, meaning, military means   
   can be counter-productive. Clearly, his view is that peace, or order and   
   harmony, is the higher goal.   
      
   I've run into enough assholes at the top and bottom, and examined myself   
   enough, to know that hurt, leads to fear, hate, and bitterness. Indeed, this   
   is buried in Bushido philosophy, and the Samurai regarded the gun as a   
   cowards weapon. In its own way, this is a pause for thought.   
      
   This, I suggest, puts a new spin on so-called "limousine liberals."   
      
   --   
   Charles E. Hardwidge   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)