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   TAKE NOTES OF THE BEHAVIOR YOU ARE WITNESSING, FOR BY THAT YOU WILL BE   
   ABLE TO PREDICT THE FUTURE... YOUR FUTURE!!   
      
   There are several Adventist discussion forums around.  We went to   
   investigate them and found that almost every single one of them as   
   Adventist discussion forums specialize in attacking Adventism and the   
   Adventist Church.  They were all overburdened with posters who made a   
   constant and relentless attack upon the church often attacking with   
   every post.  Almost all of them make relentless attack against one of   
   its key pioneering leaders:  Ellen G. White.  They all also had some   
   very noticeable similarities with Ted Seeber and the people who   
   defended him on the newsgroups. Is there a connection between these on   
   the Adventist discussion forums claiming to be Adventists and former   
   Adventists and the others we found on the newsgroups with Ted Seeber?   
   We are trying to show you there is an indelible connection!   
      
   How can this happen with the Adventist owners of the forums and   
   moderators there you ask?  How is it they can tolerate the Adventist   
   Church and Ellen White being constantly and viciously attacked ON   
   THEIR OWN ADVENTIST FORUMS till those forums are dominated by such   
   attacks?  The owners claim to be Adventists!  Anyone browsing the   
   internet to even find out about Adventism sees most every Adventist   
   forum in existence constantly attacking it and misrepresenting it!   
   Those who attack claim that the forums are free and they therefore can   
   post anything they want regarding Adventism.  The owners of the forum   
   come back and say the same things, giving condonance to what is going   
   on.  They tell us the forums are free, they're not going to do   
   anything about it, and the reason we don't like the constant attacks   
   is because we hate people who disagree with us--JUST LIKE THE STRANGE   
   PEOPLE ON THE NEWSGROUPS!!  We keep asking them who can be allowed to   
   disagree with their tyrannical accusations and they keep making the   
   accusations and ignoring our questions.   
      
   Why do the Adventist discussion forum owners allow these things?  It   
   is because they actually hate Adventism also as we will show.  THEY   
   HAVE ALL ALSO REVEALED THAT THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR THE ADVENTIST CHURCH   
   TO CHANGE!  We discovered that they actually weren't Adventists at   
   all!  What does this have to do with Ted Seeber?  What does this have   
   to do with you?  Let's find out one step at a time to do it justice.   
   Not wanting to bore you, let's get to the dialogues.   
      
   We went into discussion with these strange people.  One of the owners   
   of one "Adventist" discussion forum, J. R. Layman, the owner of the   
   Atomorrow "Adventist" forums, commented this about Brother Ted and the   
   other "Adventist" forums.  This is one of those who claims he is   
   against censorship and wants all ideas to be freely expressed to   
   enhance our potential.  If we post anything in any conclusive manner,   
   he supports the idea that we must add that it is just our personal   
   opinions, or at least behave as if that is the case.  He has a   
   terrible agenda to CHANGE the Adventist Church in concert with the cry   
   for CHANGE in our government as well, claiming this is on the basis   
   that the church doesn't allow free expression of ideas.  He then   
   enters into constant battle against all who do not think like he does   
   as do all the other strange participants on the internet, not allowing   
   others to disagree.  In his attacks, this is what he says against   
   Brother McMillan who disagrees with him.  He says about his Adventist   
   internet discussion forum to Brother McMillan:   
      
   "Even funnier is the FACT that this is the ONLY Adventist orientated   
   forum which continues to allow you to post your baloney...."   
      
   Baloney?  According to J. R. Layman?  In his opinion? (the expression   
   they like to use against those who differ with them)  Are these the   
   ones fighting for freedom of ideas and beliefs?  He continues:   
      
   The fact that your post are frequently pruned and pasted   
   here.............is simply IMO good forum management. So you don't   
   ruin the atmosphere for all posters/members. EVERY OTHER REPUTABLE   
   FORUM WHICH ATTRACTS ADVENTIST FROM ALL SIDES OF THE SPECTRUM HAVE   
   THROWN YOU OFF!!!!!!!!! Is that not true?" [Caps here are J. R.   
   Layman's own].   
      
   Whenever Brother Ted comes on J. R. Layman's forum or anyone who   
   opposes his agenda, he moves their posts and inquiring questions to   
   different places on the forum and typically may label them as on some   
   of the other forums: "The Dump", "Ted's Place," or anything he wants   
   while claiming to favor free expression.  This he does to all who   
   effectively irritates him by giving questions he and his equally   
   strange friends know they dare not answer.  But then I must let you   
   know that it is true that Brother Ted was kicked off of practically   
   every "Adventist" forum decrying censorship and claiming to support   
   free expression of every idea.  We are going to really show you why!   
      
   Our first exhibit is found here below.  When you go there...   
      
   PLEASE WRITE DOWN WHAT YOU HAVE NOTICED WITH THEIR BEHAVIOR.  WE ARE   
   NOT KIDDING!!   
      
   YOU NEED TO DO THIS!!   
      
      
   Please go now to the following webpage AND COME BACK ONCE YOU HAVE   
   FINISHED READING!!  WE HAVE A MAJOR SURPRISE FOR YOU JUST AFTER!!   
   This is one of the major "Adventist" internet discusson forums called   
   ClubAdventist:   
      
   http://www.seventh-dayadventism.com/JesuitPara.html   
      
   Notice how Brother Ted was kicked off.  He began asking them very   
   convicting questions the strange people knew they couldn't afford to   
   answer.  He tormented them with these questions.  Though the questions   
   were always ignored for obvious reasons, it was clear that they had   
   their affect.  Nobody else were asking the questions Brother Ted was   
   asking.   
      
   These posters brought every form of deceit.  Brother Ted revealed what   
   the deception was.  He then asked them questions.  How are they going   
   to answer?  It is clear that they can't answer.  In this case the   
   problem was why Stan Jensen always allowed a huge attack on the   
   Adventist Church to dominate his forum continually claiming this is   
   the price of liberty and freedom, but when Brother Ted brought up the   
   subject of Jesuit infiltration into the Adventist Church, the US   
   government, media, educational systems, etc., he had to shut it down.   
   What then can Stan Jensen do?  Apologize?  To do so means he will have   
   to either stop the constant attack against the Adventist Church on his   
   system, or else allow the subject of the problem--Jesuit   
   infiltration--to be discussed.  From thence it is clear he cannot do   
   this.  So he has to follow one of the major codes of the Jesuits in   
   order to accomplish what he must do for his agenda.  One of the major   
   principles of the Jesuit Oath is, "The End Justifies the Means!"   
   Being pushed to the wall and with an imperative to continue his work   
   against Adventism, the only thing he could do was to hypocritize   
   against his own principles and kick Brother McMillan off the forum.   
   That is what he did WITHOUT WARNING!  He was asked about his actions,   
   but just babbled over the inquiries and made everyone to know that   
   there's nothing they can do about it!   
      
   Since they always pretended the questions were not asked and were   
   RELENTLESS in covering over them and taunting around them, Brother Ted   
   kept re-asking those questions just as often.  There then comes a time   
   when they can't take it anymore, so the Jesuit owners of those forums   
   kick him off and then go into a campaign of babbling over their   
      
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