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   Ssam to All   
   The mystery of the Godhead three in one    
   22 May 07 11:03:32   
   
   From: ssam@blueyonder.co.uk   
      
   From "True Gospel Revealed Anew by Jesus", Vol. I, page 72.   
      
   http://www.divinelove.org/volume1/v1-36.htm   
      
   www.divinelove.org   
      
      
   The mystery of the Godhead three in one is a myth. There is   
   no mystery that man should not know.   
      
   ( ... ) I know that the orthodox generally believe and classify it as a part   
   of the Godhead, being one with and the equal of God, the Father, and not   
   merely a manifestation of the Father, as spirit, and hence, necessarily   
   identical with the Father, though having a different and distinct   
   personality.   
      
   In this belief and in this classification is included Jesus, having a   
   distinct personality.   
      
   The orthodox preachers and theological writers teach that it is a fact that   
   these three are one, co-equal and existing, and that fact is the great   
   mystery of God, and that men should not endeavor to fathom the mystery,   
   because the sacred things of God are His own, and it is not lawful for men   
   to enter into these secrets.   
      
   Well this declaration and admonition are very wise as men's wisdom goes, and   
   saves the expounders of these doctrines of mystery from attempting to   
   explain what they cannot explain, because it is impossible for them to   
   unravel that which as a fact, has no existence.   
      
   Men of thought all down the ages have sought to understand this great   
   mystery, as they called it, and have been unsuccessful, and as the early   
   fathers met with the same defeat in their endeavors to understand the   
   mystery, and, then because of such defeat, declared the explanation of the   
   doctrine to be a secret of God, not to be inquired into by men, so all these   
   other investigators of the church when they became convinced of the futility   
   of the search, adopted the admonition of the old fathers that God's secret   
   must not be inquired into, for it belonged to Him alone, and sinful man and   
   the redeemed man also must respect God's secret.   
      
   And thus from the beginning of the established church, after the death of   
   Jesus and his apostles, was declared this doctrine of the trinity--one in   
   three and three in one, yet only one--and made the vital foundation stone of   
   their visible church's existence. Of course, from time to time, there arose   
   men, both in the church, who, having more enlightenment than their brothers   
   in the church, attempted to gainsay the truth of the doctrine and declared   
   and maintained that there was only one God, the Father.   
      
   But they were in the minority, and not acting with the more powerful, their   
   views were rejected; and the mystery became the church's sacred symbol of   
   truth, unexplainable and therefore more certain and entitled to more   
   credence. And it seems to be the tendency of men's minds, or at least of   
   those who believe in the Bible as the inspired word of God, to welcome and   
   encourage as the more wonderful and important and the more to be cherished   
   those things which savor of the mysterious, rather than those which a man   
   may read and understand as he runneth.   
      
   NOWHERE, NOT EVEN IN THE BIBLE, IS THERE ANY SAYING OF JESUS TO THE EFFECT   
   THAT GOD IS TRIPARTITE, CONSISTING OF THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY GHOST; AND,   
   AS A FACT, NEVER DID JESUS WHEN ON EARTH TEACH ANY SUCH DOCTRINE, BUT ONLY   
   THIS: THAT THE FATHER IS GOD AND THE ONLY GOD, AND THAT HE, JESUS, IS HIS   
   SON AND THE FIRST FRUITS OF THE RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD, AND THAT THE   
   HOLY GHOST IS GOD'S MESSENGER FOR CONVEYING THE DIVINE LOVE, AND AS SUCH,   
   THE COMFORTER.   
      
   I know that in some of the Gospels, as now contained in the Bible and   
   adopted as canonical, it is said, in effect, that the Godhead consists of   
   the Father, Son and Holy Ghost--these three are one--but such Gospels do not   
   contain the truth in this respect and are not the same Gospels that were   
   originally written. These original Gospels have been added to and taken from   
   in the passing of the years and in the copying and the recopying that   
   occurred before the adoption of the same.   
      
   They, the adopted ones, were compiled from many writings, and as the   
   compilers in those early times differed in their opinions as men do now   
   respecting religious truths, the more powerful of these having authority to   
   declare what should be accepted, according to their interpretations of those   
   manuscripts that were being copied, directed the copies to be made in accord   
   with their ideas, and I may say, desires, and announced and put forth such   
   productions to be true copies of the originals. And as these copies were   
   successively made the preceding ones were destroyed, and hence the earliest   
   existing manuscripts of these Gospels came into being many years after the   
   originals from which they were claimed to be compiled, were written and   
   destroyed.   
      
   AND I, LUKE, WHO DID WRITE A GOSPEL AND WHO AM ACQUAINTED WITH THE PRESENT   
   GOSPEL ASCRIBED TO ME, SAY THAT THERE ARE MANY VITAL THINGS AND   
   DECLARATIONS, THAT I NEVER WROTE AND THAT ARE NOT TRUE, CONTAINED IN IT; AND   
   MANY TRUTHS THAT I DID WRITE ARE NOT CONTAINED THEREIN--AND SO WITH THE   
   OTHER GOSPELS.   
      
   In none of our Gospels did the mystery of the Godhead appear, and that for   
   the reason that there was not and is not, and we did not teach that there   
   was any Godhead, composed of three personalities. Only one God, the Father.   
   Jesus was a son of man in the natural sense, and a son of God in the   
   spiritual sense, but he was not God or a part of God in any sense except   
   that he possessed the Divine Love of the Father, and in that sense was a   
   part of His Essence. The Holy Spirit was not God, but merely His   
   instrument--a Spirit--the Holy Spirit.   
      
   As you have been informed, the soul of man existed prior to man's creation   
   in the flesh, and was the only part of man that was made in the image of   
   God. It existed in this pristine state without individuality, though having   
   a personality, and resembled the Great Soul of the Almighty, which Soul is   
   God Himself; though the soul that was given to man was not a part of the   
   Great Soul, merely a likeness of it.   
      
   Some of you mortals have said that man's soul is a part of the "Oversoul,"   
   meaning the Soul of God, but this is not true, and if in any of our   
   communications it has been said that the soul of man is a part of the Soul   
   of God, and I mean while it existed before its incarnation, our saying must   
   not be so interpreted.   
      
   The ego of God as may be said, is the Soul, and from this Soul, emanates all   
   the manifested attributes of God, such as power and wisdom and love--but not   
   jealousy or wrath or hatred, as some of the writers of the Bible have said,   
   for He possesses no such attributes.   
      
   The ego of man is the soul, and in his created purity and perfection from   
   his soul emanated all the manifested attributes belonging to him, such as   
   power and love and wisdom; and neither were jealousy nor hatred nor wrath   
   attributes of his before his fall.   
      
      
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