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|    Ssam to All    |
|    The mystery of the Godhead three in one     |
|    22 May 07 11:03:32    |
      From: ssam@blueyonder.co.uk              From "True Gospel Revealed Anew by Jesus", Vol. I, page 72.              http://www.divinelove.org/volume1/v1-36.htm              www.divinelove.org                     The mystery of the Godhead three in one is a myth. There is       no mystery that man should not know.              ( ... ) I know that the orthodox generally believe and classify it as a part       of the Godhead, being one with and the equal of God, the Father, and not       merely a manifestation of the Father, as spirit, and hence, necessarily       identical with the Father, though having a different and distinct       personality.              In this belief and in this classification is included Jesus, having a       distinct personality.              The orthodox preachers and theological writers teach that it is a fact that       these three are one, co-equal and existing, and that fact is the great       mystery of God, and that men should not endeavor to fathom the mystery,       because the sacred things of God are His own, and it is not lawful for men       to enter into these secrets.              Well this declaration and admonition are very wise as men's wisdom goes, and       saves the expounders of these doctrines of mystery from attempting to       explain what they cannot explain, because it is impossible for them to       unravel that which as a fact, has no existence.              Men of thought all down the ages have sought to understand this great       mystery, as they called it, and have been unsuccessful, and as the early       fathers met with the same defeat in their endeavors to understand the       mystery, and, then because of such defeat, declared the explanation of the       doctrine to be a secret of God, not to be inquired into by men, so all these       other investigators of the church when they became convinced of the futility       of the search, adopted the admonition of the old fathers that God's secret       must not be inquired into, for it belonged to Him alone, and sinful man and       the redeemed man also must respect God's secret.              And thus from the beginning of the established church, after the death of       Jesus and his apostles, was declared this doctrine of the trinity--one in       three and three in one, yet only one--and made the vital foundation stone of       their visible church's existence. Of course, from time to time, there arose       men, both in the church, who, having more enlightenment than their brothers       in the church, attempted to gainsay the truth of the doctrine and declared       and maintained that there was only one God, the Father.              But they were in the minority, and not acting with the more powerful, their       views were rejected; and the mystery became the church's sacred symbol of       truth, unexplainable and therefore more certain and entitled to more       credence. And it seems to be the tendency of men's minds, or at least of       those who believe in the Bible as the inspired word of God, to welcome and       encourage as the more wonderful and important and the more to be cherished       those things which savor of the mysterious, rather than those which a man       may read and understand as he runneth.              NOWHERE, NOT EVEN IN THE BIBLE, IS THERE ANY SAYING OF JESUS TO THE EFFECT       THAT GOD IS TRIPARTITE, CONSISTING OF THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY GHOST; AND,       AS A FACT, NEVER DID JESUS WHEN ON EARTH TEACH ANY SUCH DOCTRINE, BUT ONLY       THIS: THAT THE FATHER IS GOD AND THE ONLY GOD, AND THAT HE, JESUS, IS HIS       SON AND THE FIRST FRUITS OF THE RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD, AND THAT THE       HOLY GHOST IS GOD'S MESSENGER FOR CONVEYING THE DIVINE LOVE, AND AS SUCH,       THE COMFORTER.              I know that in some of the Gospels, as now contained in the Bible and       adopted as canonical, it is said, in effect, that the Godhead consists of       the Father, Son and Holy Ghost--these three are one--but such Gospels do not       contain the truth in this respect and are not the same Gospels that were       originally written. These original Gospels have been added to and taken from       in the passing of the years and in the copying and the recopying that       occurred before the adoption of the same.              They, the adopted ones, were compiled from many writings, and as the       compilers in those early times differed in their opinions as men do now       respecting religious truths, the more powerful of these having authority to       declare what should be accepted, according to their interpretations of those       manuscripts that were being copied, directed the copies to be made in accord       with their ideas, and I may say, desires, and announced and put forth such       productions to be true copies of the originals. And as these copies were       successively made the preceding ones were destroyed, and hence the earliest       existing manuscripts of these Gospels came into being many years after the       originals from which they were claimed to be compiled, were written and       destroyed.              AND I, LUKE, WHO DID WRITE A GOSPEL AND WHO AM ACQUAINTED WITH THE PRESENT       GOSPEL ASCRIBED TO ME, SAY THAT THERE ARE MANY VITAL THINGS AND       DECLARATIONS, THAT I NEVER WROTE AND THAT ARE NOT TRUE, CONTAINED IN IT; AND       MANY TRUTHS THAT I DID WRITE ARE NOT CONTAINED THEREIN--AND SO WITH THE       OTHER GOSPELS.              In none of our Gospels did the mystery of the Godhead appear, and that for       the reason that there was not and is not, and we did not teach that there       was any Godhead, composed of three personalities. Only one God, the Father.       Jesus was a son of man in the natural sense, and a son of God in the       spiritual sense, but he was not God or a part of God in any sense except       that he possessed the Divine Love of the Father, and in that sense was a       part of His Essence. The Holy Spirit was not God, but merely His       instrument--a Spirit--the Holy Spirit.              As you have been informed, the soul of man existed prior to man's creation       in the flesh, and was the only part of man that was made in the image of       God. It existed in this pristine state without individuality, though having       a personality, and resembled the Great Soul of the Almighty, which Soul is       God Himself; though the soul that was given to man was not a part of the       Great Soul, merely a likeness of it.              Some of you mortals have said that man's soul is a part of the "Oversoul,"       meaning the Soul of God, but this is not true, and if in any of our       communications it has been said that the soul of man is a part of the Soul       of God, and I mean while it existed before its incarnation, our saying must       not be so interpreted.              The ego of God as may be said, is the Soul, and from this Soul, emanates all       the manifested attributes of God, such as power and wisdom and love--but not       jealousy or wrath or hatred, as some of the writers of the Bible have said,       for He possesses no such attributes.              The ego of man is the soul, and in his created purity and perfection from       his soul emanated all the manifested attributes belonging to him, such as       power and love and wisdom; and neither were jealousy nor hatred nor wrath       attributes of his before his fall.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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