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|    Mysteries od God (1/4)    |
|    28 Aug 07 19:30:13    |
      From: rfraning@mchsi.com              A TRILOGY ON METAPHYSICS AND THE HUMAN SOUL       (Dedicated to the Honor and the Glory of God)       --------------------------------------------                     A SHORT TREATISE ON THE REALITY OF GOD                     God is the ultimate reality. He has spun the universes into existence       and has created all other beings. As humans, we too had our beginning       from God. Like Plato and Socrates, I believe that we pre-existed in a       spiritual realm prior to being born into this world. Unfortunately the       church fathers, with the exceptions of Origen and Augustine, rejected       this view as an overreaction to the heresies of gnosticism and       neoplatonism that threatened to subvert the Gospel. How do I know of       this pre-existence? I have very faint memories of a spiritual       existence before being born into this world. My children spoke of this       of this existence when they were small. I have heard of other 2-4 year       old children being able to talk of their own pre-existence in the       spiritual realm prior to their earthly birth, when carefully       questioned about it. One couple I know of had three boys who each       spoke of having been with God and the angels prior to birth without       any prompting from their parents when they were small. Evidently as       people age and develop, these memories are overlaid with countless       earthly memories and are largely forgotten.       One may ask why are we here and forced to leave that spiritual realm.       I believe that the answer lies in the fall of Lucifer from Heaven       along with a third of the angels. It is my own belief that human       spirits were originally intended to be part of Lucifer's cadre in the       spiritual realm. Once Lucifer fell, there was no further need for our       existence in the spiritual realm, since we had been created to serve       Lucifer in carrying out his heavenly responsibilities. Lucifer's       disobedience led to our own eventual banishment from Heaven, even       though we were not involved in his revolt against God. God in His       infinite mercy has brought us to this world to perfect our redemption.       He is bound by His own spiritual laws in the eternal realm, but at the       temporal level, He can rewrite our destiny through His plan for our       redemption. Had not Adam and Eve disobeyed God, this plan would have       been much simpler and salvation would have been universal for all       mankind. When that couple listened to Lucifer rather than obey God,       suddenly salvation became much more difficult. Man had chosen sides       and was no longer just an innocent bystander thus bringing       condemnation on all mankind who was to be born on earth from that time       forward.       Man himself had sinned against God and lost his opportunity for an       easier salvation. To put it in the vernacular, man really blew it. Now       man's disobedience had to dealt with in a manner satisfying God,       fulfilling the new parameters now required for our salvation and       permit our return to the spiritual realm (Heaven) after leaving this       earthly sojourn. Christ, the second person of the Godhead, came to       earth in the form of a man to die a sacrificial death for our       redemption so that by believing in Him and on His death, we can be       redeemed and made new spiritual beings fit for His kingdom. Through       Christ, the Holy Spirit creates us anew and we are reshaped into His       image, no longer designed to follow after Lucifer and his entourage.       Praise be to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit for their gift of       salvation through the Son's loving sacrifice of Himself on the cross,       the Father's willingness to send Him and the Spirit's perseverance in       causing us to believe.       Some have a difficult time grasping the concept of the Trinity. The       Trinity is the three distinct, separate, yet simultaneously occurring       dynamic states in which God exists and through which He expresses       Himself. It may be easier to understand the Trinity by the functions       they perform. The Father is the Creator of His creation. The Son       controls the interface relationship between the Creator and His       creation. The Holy Spirit permeates the creation carrying out the will       of the Father and the Son.       Others may ask how does God create worlds and universes, i.e. this       temporal existence. I believe the new physics gives us an insight into       God's methods. The big bang which began our universe was caused by a       large quantum fluctuation. These fluctuations are believed by some       cosmologists to be power spikes in a tremendous quantum field of       incredible intensity. Since there are undoubtedly many of these power       spikes, and at the top of each powerful enough spike is a created       universe, there are probably many overlapping sister universes to our       universe in existence at this very moment. They are separated from       each other only by the different quantum time value that each universe       possesses. Thus we can not see or sense them nor can they see or sense       us. You may ask how does God fit into the overall scheme of these       things. I truly believe that the energy that creates and drives this       quantum field issues forth from the mind of God even as He speaks the       Word. The beauty of God and His methods is that while we may seem far       removed from where God is, He is only a prayer away. He loves us and       cares for us, who believe on His dear Son, and longs that all mankind       will come to a saving faith in His beloved Son; but God wants our love       freely given and not given through coercion. He gives us His Holy       Spirit to guide us and lead us into paths of righteousness for His       namesake. All that is required of us is simple faith in our living       Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.       I look forward to the day that I return to the spiritual realm from       which we have come and can worship, adore, praise and glorify Him       forever. Our Lord made a way back where there was no way, so that we       may dwell with Him and enjoy Him forever. Praise be to God that He has       not left us nor forsaken us, but through His death established His       plan for our salvation when we come to believe on His shed blood.       Hallelujah, God is truly great and greatly to be worshiped in spirit       and truth.                     In awe of the Living God,       Richard E. Franing                                                 AN INTERPRETATION OF GENESIS ONE                     I've decided to take a shot at this one, so you folks need to get the       stake ready along with the rope, wood and matches because I'm about to       reveal my pet theory concerning the first chapter of Genesis. In       second Peter 3:8, we find the following in the RSV version: "But do       not ignore this fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a       thousand years and a thousand years is as one day." This is a way of       saying that God is the creator and ruler of time as well as every              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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