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   From: 3cjmd@comcast.net   
      
   On Wed, 31 May 2006 02:40:22 GMT, John VanSickle   
    wrote:   
      
   >Jaxtraw wrote:   
   >   
   >> Fear of the outsider (muslim terrorists) combined with fear of the insider   
   >> (your neighbour is a paedophile with guns and knives who wants to kill you).   
   >   
   >The silly part is that the fear of the muslim terrorist is not moving   
   >them to take a number of sensible steps that are quite within their   
   >power.  Even small steps, like making foreign-born rabble-rousers   
   >ineligible for the dole, seem to require far and away too much backbone   
   >for them.   
   >   
   >The generation that fought Nazi Germany would have packed the Pakis back   
   >to Pakistan after 7/7.   
      
   When I hear some mouthy foreigner who now lives in this country   
   tearing it down and blabbing off about how much better things are in   
   his (perhaps meaningfully, it's usually a he) home country, I'm the   
   first one to turn around, demand to know why he is here if things at   
   home were soooo good, and to suggest that if this is the way he feels   
   he can always pack his bags and go back to the miserable hellhole that   
   he came from.  And I can't stand the kind of jerks who come here to   
   live because they country is a shithole, and then have the gall to try   
   to tell us how fucked up we are, as they try to impose and *coerce*   
   their "better" ways upon us (obviously those ways, whether religious,   
   political, or moral must not be so shit hot if they ever in such a   
   rush to leave home back in Bumfuckistan.   
      
   But John, your wording is scaring me a little too.  You didn't make it   
   totally clear in that last line, so when you say "Pakis" (otherwise a   
   fairly derogatory term these days), I'll trust and hope that you are   
   just referring to the fanatics, rouble-rousers, and cynical or   
   clueless manipulators who more or less fit the profiles I've outlined   
   above (and of course, the terrorists and their supporters).  Because I   
   dearly hope that these are a minority, just as I hope that the great   
   majority of immigrants from Pakistan to the UK actually want and   
   strive to become productive and assimilated citizens in their new   
   country (just as I hope they do over here).   
      
   I have no time or patience for the former, just as I have all the   
   respect and time in the world for the latter, regardless of what their   
   home country might actually be.   
      
   Cheers,   
      
   Jaime   
      
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