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From: spansanza@gmail.com
dolf wrote:
>Pancho Sanza wrote:
>>dolf wrote:
>>
>>>CORRECTION:
>>>
>>>The problem is that this dynamic [... #194 ... #239 ... #459] which
>>>intersects to 29 AUGUST is an identified schema (ie. #71 --> #34) mapping
>>>ROMAN HETEROS PROTOTYPE #TWO --> LUO SHU (the pattern is precise) BY
>>>HITLER's TABLE TALK 1941 / 1994 as #225 / #1771 - REICH EMPIRE ACTION.
>>>
>>>Europe has a guilt for horrendous sins and that DEPRAVITY is no more
>>>manifest than in the conduct of Kees van den Doel
>>>
>>
>>Only if you paint Kees van den Doel in a
>>different shade of red than your garden fence.
>The American Revolution had a significant impact on the Dutch Republic. The
end
>of the eighteenth century was marked by a spirited exchange of ideas on
liberty,
>political rights and state-building between the two Republics. But it was
not
>merely ideas which travelled freely. People from both sides of the
Atlantic
>sailed across the ocean for professional, political, and personal reasons,
and
>testified to the great revolutionary events that were unfolding at the
time.
>This led to numerous exchanges between American and Dutch politicians. In
this
>blog Lauren Lauret focuses on Gijsbert Karel van Hogendorp and Thomas
Jefferson.
>The Dutch Republic was the first country to acknowledge the independence of
the
>United States in 1782. An official delegation set sail to Philadelphia
the
>following year and Van Hogendorp joined them in a military capacity. His
journey
>was a transatlantic and revolutionary version of the traditional Grand Tour:
the
>Old World visiting the New. During the trip he wrote an extensive number
of
>thematic and philosophical letters, now kept by the National Archives of
the
>Netherlands in The Hague. He would later draw on this material when working
on
>the new constitution of the Dutch Restoration government in the 1810s. In
the
>process, Van Hogendorp retained the institutions of the Batavian
Revolution,
>while providing them with their traditional, prerevolutionary
names. A
>transatlantic perspective helps us to better understand the
pivotal
>contributions of both Jefferson and Van Hogendorp to the American and
Dutch
>constitutions respectively. “The best-informed man of his age I have ever
seen”
>After meeting Van Hogendorp in Annapolis, where Congress had
assembled,
>Jefferson recommended him to George Washington “as the best-informed man
of his
>age I have ever seen.” Of course, Jefferson could not foresee that Van
Hogendorp
>would later become the main author of the Dutch constitution, but, as he
wrote
>to the young man, he was much impressed with his abilities: “Your thirst
after
>knowledge, your capacity to acquire it, your dispositions to apply it to
the
>good of mankind [..] give your country much to hope from the continuance of
your
>life.” Such praise no doubt boosted the intellectual ambitions of the
twenty-
>year old youth who relished the exchange of ideas on government with
Jefferson
>from the moment they met. At first glance, Jefferson and Van Hogendorp
would
>appear to be unlikely friends. They occupied opposite ends of the spectrum
as
>far as fundamental questions were concerned. Jefferson championed
popular
>sovereignty and individual state power. In contrast, Van Hogendorp believed
that
>the people should be firmly kept in check and that the limitations on the
powers
>of Congress were detrimental to the American Republic. Nevertheless,
the
>exchange of letters set Van Hogendorp’s mind on fire and he bombarded
Jefferson
>with questions. On reading a draft of Jefferson’s Notes of the State of
Virginia
>in 1784, he asked a poignant question: “Give me leave to put You in mind
of the
>articles of Your description of Virginia, which You granted me to have
copied. I
>should wish to know whether Your Negroes marry, or what proportion do.
One
>Evening in the Yerseys, riding on very slow on my fatigued horse, I conceived
an
>idea that gave me great Satisfaction. It leads to develope the history
and
>destination of man. In consequence of it I have drawn a rough sketch of a
system
>of Nature, of Society, of Government and of Politics. I am not able now to
Send
>You a copy, but intend doing it afterwards.” “Study the laws to simplify
them” A
>central idea running through Van Hogendorp’s notes is the
simplicity” of the
>American people. This would also become a key term in plans to reform
the
>government of the Dutch Republic. Van Hogendorp carefully observed how
the
>Massachusetts legislature went about simplifying the state’s
legislation in
>December 1783: “Committees do most of the work really, or the main
combatants
>walk up to each other during a debate and settle the matter. They do not
always
>turn a committee report into a state law, nevertheless the report
is
>influential. Several matters are trusted in the hands of committees
elected
>outside of the assembly: this way the most-esteemed are elected to study
the
>laws to simplify them. Seventy [bills] were listed, three of those
were
>presented to the assembly, and all of them spoiled by lucid comments.”
According
>to Van Hogendorp, public finance was in need of simplification in both the
‘old’
>Dutch Republic and the young American Republic. Most Dutch provinces had
been
>unwilling to adapt their standard contribution to federal expenses
when
>circumstances changed. In the light of this crucial political problem,
Van
>Hogendorp was very interested in the design of American financial
system.
>Jefferson commented on Van Hogendorp’s “short account of the finances
of the
>United States” and Robert Morris—the initiator of the Bank of
North-America—
>commented on his note on the “Bank of North-America.” The American
states, like
>the Dutch provinces, wanted to maintain the quote system, which they regarded
as
>an essential element of states’ rights. Van Hogendorp was of the opinion
that in
>doing so the young American Republic ran the risk of making the same mistakes
as
>his homeland and informed Jefferson accordingly. In his notes, Van
Hogendorp
>also reflected on the benefits of Dutch-American financial and
commercial
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