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   Message 103,276 of 103,284   
   dolf to Kees van den Doel   
   Re: -- EVIDENCE FOR CONSIDERATION THE RE   
   14 Nov 25 16:40:21   
   
   XPost: nl.natuur, nl.politiek, uk.legal   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic   
   From: dolfboek@hotmail.com   
      
   KEES VAN DEN DOEL @ 0530 HRS ON 14 NOVEMBER 2025: "Waarom krijgt Pancho   
   4ier replies op zijn pots en ik maar 11n?   
      
   Das hele maalniet eer lik!   
      
   Is dat  diskriminaatsie op basis van  kleur, geloof, woonplaats,   
   soortelijke massa, en gemiddelde snel heid?   
      
   Of heefdt Pancho d' aarecht op als Ont dekker van Dolf?   
      
   TRANSLATION: Why does Pancho get four replies to his posts and I only   
   eleven?   
      
   That's not fair at all!   
      
   Is that discrimination based on color, religion, place of residence,   
   specific gravity, and average speed?   
      
   Or does Pancho have a right to claim his place as the discoverer of Dolf?"   
      
   DOLF @ 1427 HRS ON 14 NOVEMBER 2025: "ZEG HET MAAR - Let your next and   
   last statement decide what judgement ought to be made of the DUTCH TULIP   
   [#225 🌷 #1771] KINGDOM as WEALTH before PRINCIPLES . For example did   
   een minder aan een meer RUTTE as SECRETARY GENERAL OF NATO give any   
   public ratification for AMERICAN 250 YEARS OF MILITARY HISTORY or do we   
   have to rely on WIKILEAKS?"   
      
   KEES VAN DEN DOEL @ 1555 HRS ON 14 NOVEMBER 2025: "Duidelijke vraag.   
      
   Een goede vraag en die verdiend een goed ant woord.   
      
   De keuze is dus tussen:   
      
   a) een minder aan een meer RUTTE as SECRETARY GENERAL  OF NATO did give   
   any public ratification for AMERICAN 250 YEARS OF MILITARY HISTORY   
      
   of   
      
   b) we have to  rely on WIKILEAKS   
      
   Een moeilijke keuze, te vergelijken  met een GORdiaanse knoop en de ezel   
   die verhongerd tussen  two hooi balen zit te  balen als iemand begrijpt   
   wat ik beDoel.   
      
   TRANSLATION: Clear question. A good question, and it deserves a good answer.   
      
   So the choice is between:   
      
   a) or b)   
      
   A difficult choice, comparable to a Gordian knot and the donkey starving   
   between two hay bales, bawling if anyone understands what I mean."   
      
   DOLF @ 1427 HRS ON 14 NOVEMBER 2025: "Historically science associated   
   with precedents of 3 JUNE 1769 did incontrovertibly establish:   
      
   #1770 --> #225 | #1771 - *WOLFSSCHANZE* --> #1772 - PAPAL SEAT v's   
   GROUNDING FOR ARTICLE 24 - DUTCH KING WILLIAM I (WILLEM FREDERIK; 24   
   AUGUST 1772 – 12 DECEMBER 1843)   
      
   As prerogative claims to #405 - COGITO of #522 - DOMINION which is then   
   the premise for a metaphysical hypostasis assertion of HOMOS SAPIENT   
   ontology as IMAGO DEI encompassing an inherent ontic grounding for its   
   being of MORAL ENDS and #451 - PRAXIS OF RATIONALITY is then   
   differentiated from the #1772 - PAPAL SEAT as perspective.   
      
   So that there is no lack of clarity (eg: UN SECRETARY-GENERAL ANTÓNIO   
   GUTERRES who despite that #1770 --> #1771 --> #1772 | #1774 --> #1775   
   legal precedent to a SOVEREIGN DEMOCRATIC STATE improperly believes that   
   PORTUGAL by political slight of hand can magically morph from a FASCIST   
   state to a democracy) upon this 14 NOVEMBER about a REASONED REJECTION   
   (vis a vis JEWISH CHRISTIAN seventh-day sabbath observant Christians   
   having an ecclesiastical precedence to BABYLONIAN WHOREDOM: #87 = [#2,   
   #30, #1, #4, #50] as #1772 - PAPAL SEAT) of PAPAL TOTALITARIANISM (ie.   
   feigned benevolence given IRISH REPUBLICANISM pursued its relentless   
   goals despite diatribe from POPE FRANCIS) as wilful and wickedness of   
   #1080 - HETEROS NUMBER MYSTICISM unaccountability, to provide a   
   newspaper article of contemporaneous and insubstantial claims so that we   
   may contend against any consequential neophyte DOGMATISM within our   
   COMMONWEALTH (ie. who as course of life violate our constitutional   
   rights by the substance of their RELIGIOUS BELIEF) where the voice of   
   POPE LEO XIV soundly betrays his AMERICA as the land of his birth.   
      
   Which as synaptic scribal expansion has been understood as:   
      
   #87 = shòu (受): *TRANSFER* ACTION #1772 - PRINCIPLE: #2 - FULL CIRCLE   
   (周, #33), #30 - BOLD RESOLUTION (毅, #30), #1 - CENTRE (中, #1621), #4 -   
   BARRIER (閑, #38), #50 - VASTNESS / WASTING (唐, #50):   
      
   #33 = [#2, #31] - FULL CIRCLE (周)   
   #30 = [#30] - BOLD RESOLUTION (毅)   
      
   #1621 = [#1, #2, #3, #6, #7, #15, #17, #20, #22, #23, #25, #26, #36,   
   #37, #38, #40, #42, #44, #45, #46, #52, #53, #55, #56, #57, #58, #62,   
   #67, #68, #69, #70, #71, #73, #75, #79, #80, #81] - CENTRE (中) ON 9   
   FEBRUARY 1621: PAPAL CONCLAVE OF 1621: POPE GREGORY XV SUCCEEDS POPE   
   PAUL V, AS THE 234TH POPE   
      
   #38 = [#4, #34] - BARRIER (閑)   
   #50 = [#50] - VASTNESS / WASTING (唐)   
      
   The implication of such a proposition as evinced by the PAPAL CONCLAVE   
   OF 9 FEBRUARY 1621 IN ELECTING THE 234TH POPE is that of being a   
   political mechanism by the VATICAN CITY-STATE to exert ROMAN CATHOLIC   
   CONTROL that here is shown to have a dependency upon the CANON OF   
   SUPREME MYSTERY which whilst published in 4 BCE (is no doubt an   
   epistemological JEWISH / CHRISTIAN premise explained within the EPISTLE   
   TO THE ROMANS as the "REVELATION OF THE MYSTERY WHICH WAS KEPT SECRET   
   SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN." [Romans 16:25]) which appears somewhat   
   contradictory to public disclosures of the initial PROPAGATION IN CHINA   
   OF THE LUMINOUS RELIGION FROM DAQIN depicted within a STELLA OF 7   
   JANUARY 781."   
      
   KRISTEN ZICCARELLI / JOSHUA TREVIÑO (WALL STREET JOURNAL) @ AEDT: 0926   
   HRS ON 14 NOVEMBER 2025: "AI IS A TOOL, NOT A SOUL - POPE LEO XIV TRIES   
   TO HEAD OFF CLAIMS THAT CHATBOTS ARE SENTIENT BEINGS WITH RIGHTS:   
      
   â€œThou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.” So went   
   the prohibition on artificial intelligence in Frank Herbert’s 1965 novel   
   â€œDune,” and what was then a datum of fictional world-building is now a   
   real and pressing concern. In the age when the passing of the Turing   
   test was a distant prospect, the question of computing and the mind was   
   one of anthropomorphism—of transmitting human qualities to an object.   
   The issue is now arguably anthropic—of the objects’ becoming human. We   
   have moved from the likeness of thought, expressed through   
   artificiality, to the plausible existence of the real thing,   
   artificially achieved. The leap from form to substance is profound and   
   its consequences unknown.   
      
   This is the context in which Pope Leo XIV raised the challenge of AI in   
   an Oct. 29 address at the Vatican. Speaking on the 60th anniversary of   
   â€œNostra Aetate,” Pope Paul VI’s declaration of the Catholic Church’s   
   relationship with non-Christian religions, Leo pivoted from an   
   exposition on the document’s injunction against antisemitism to a   
   warning on the threat of AI. “If conceived as an alternative to humans,”   
   the pontiff said, the technology “can gravely violate their infinite   
   dignity and neutralize their fundamental responsibilities.”   
      
   That seems like a non sequitur, but it is nothing of the kind. The   
   argument that “Imago Dei” forbids Christians from hating Jews is also an   
   argument for the defense of the image of God against its imitation, and   
      
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