Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"
|    alt.religion.clergy    |    Tiered system of religious servitude    |    48,662 messages    |
[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]
|    Message 46,736 of 48,662    |
|    P ø? t?! / ?· œ     |
|    Celebacy 3    |
|    28 Jan 18 18:33:30    |
      XPost: alt.religion.christian.biblestudy, alt.religion.christian       roman-catholic, england.religion.misc       XPost: free.christians, hk.soc.religion.christianity       From: œ@att.net              Paul was not the first apostle to conclude that celibacy is, in some       sense, "better" than marriage. After Jesus' teaching in Matthew 19 on       divorce and remarriage, the disciples exclaimed, "If such is the case       between a man and his wife, it is better not to marry" (Matt 19:10).       This remark prompted Jesus' teaching on the value of celibacy "for the       sake of the kingdom":              "Not all can accept this word, but only those to whom it is granted.       Some are incapable of marriage because they were born so; some,       because they were made so by others; some, because they have renounced       marriage for the sake of the kingdom of God. Whoever can accept this       ought to accept it" (Matt. 19:11-12).              Celibacy is neither unnatural nor unbiblical. "Be fruitful and       multiply" is not binding upon every individual; rather, it is a       general precept for the human race. Otherwise, every unmarried man and       woman of marrying age would be in a state of sin by remaining single,       and Jesus and Paul would be guilty of advocating sin as well as       committing it.              Another Fundamentalist argument, related to the last, is that marriage       is mandatory for Church leaders. For Paul says a bishop must be "the       husband of one wife," and "must manage his own household well, keeping       his children submissive and respectful in every way; for if a man does       not know how to manage his own household, how can he care for God's       Church?" (1 Tim. 3:2, 4-5). This means, they argue, that only a man       who has demonstrably looked after a family is fit to care for God's       Church; an unmarried man, it is implied, is somehow untried or       unproven.              This interpretation leads to obvious absurdities. For one, if "the       husband of one wife" really meant that a bishop had to be married,       then by the same logic "keeping his children submissive and respectful       in every way" would mean that he had to have children. Childless       husbands (or even fathers of only one child, since Paul uses the       plural) would not qualify.              In fact, following this style of interpretation to its final       absurdity, since Paul speaks of bishops meeting these requirements       (not of their having met them, or of candidates for bishop meeting       them), it would even follow that an ordained bishop whose wife or       children died would become unqualified for ministry! Clearly such       excessive literalism must be rejected.              An example of ministerial celibacy can also be seen in the Old       Testament. The prophet Jeremiah, as part of his prophetic ministry,       was forbidden to take a wife: "The word of the Lord came to me: 'You       shall not take a wife, nor shall you have sons or daughters in this       place'" (Jer. 16:1-2). Of course, this is different from Catholic       priestly celibacy, which is not divinely ordained; yet the divine       precedent still supports the legitimacy of the human institution.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]
(c) 1994, bbs@darkrealms.ca