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   Message 46,745 of 48,662   
   Steve Hayes to Traditionalist"   
   Re: 2. False doctrine   
   29 Jan 18 04:40:46   
   
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   From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net   
      
   On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 14:54:21 -0000, "1st Century Apostolic   
   Traditionalist"  wrote:   
      
   >"Steve Hayes"  wrote in message news:   
   >"1st Century Apostolic   
   >Traditionalist"  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>A false doctrine:   
   >>>>>>>Is one that allows God's Elect to  participate  in the political   
   >>>>>>>"Affairs of this life".   
   >>>   
   >>>>>>I'm not aware of any such "doctrine".   
   >>>   
   >>>Try 2 Tim 2:3-5.   
   >>>>>"Endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.   
   >>>>>4 No man that warreth *entangleth* himself with the affairs  of this   
   >>>>>life*   
   >>>>>that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.   
   >>>   
   >>>>>5 And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except   
   >>>>>he   
   >>>>>strive lawfully."   
   >>>>>2 Tim 2:3-5 (KJV)   
   >>   
   >>>>None of those supports your alleged "doctrine".   
   >>   
   >>>It does to me, as 'Affairs of state' would logically be  included in the   
   >>>"Affairs of this life" along with the other relevant  reasons I first   
   >>>posted.   
   >>   
   >>>Especially as the potential to go against Almighty God's own infallible   
   >>>decisions as to who is fit to rule, may be entirely opposed to our own   
   >>>weak   
   >>>and bigoted personal thinking.   
   >>   
   >>>After all,  how many professing Christians in Germany would have voted to   
   >>>put Adolf Hitler into power?   
   >   
   >>Well then, who originated the doctrine that caused them to do so, and   
   >>where may it be found?   
   >   
   >There is no doctrine to do so, only a doctrine NOT to  be involved in the   
   >secular "Affairs of this life" for the reasons already given.   
      
   So there is no "false doctrine" that the title of your original post   
   suggests?   
      
      
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