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   From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net   
      
   On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:57:47 -0000, "1st Century Apostolic   
   Traditionalist"  wrote:   
      
   >   
   >   
   >"Steve Hayes"  wrote in message   
   >news:p1tv6d1elvv55dqo84653ina5rplc7i3n3@4ax.com...   
   >   
   >On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 09:08:57 -0000, "1st Century Apostolic   
   >Traditionalist"  wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>"Steve Hayes"  wrote in message news:   
   >>"1st Century Apostolic   
   >>Traditionalist"  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>A false doctrine:   
   >>>>>>>>>Is one that allows God's Elect to  participate  in the political   
   >>>>>>>>>"Affairs of this life".   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>I'm not aware of any such "doctrine".   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Try 2 Tim 2:3-5.   
   >>>>>>>>"Endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.   
   >>>>>>>>4 No man that warreth *entangleth* himself with the affairs  of this   
   >>>>>>>life*   
   >>>>>>>>that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>5 And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned,   
   >>>>>>>except   
   >>>>>>>he   
   >>>>>>>strive lawfully."   
   >>>>>>>2 Tim 2:3-5 (KJV)   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>>>None of those supports your alleged "doctrine".   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>It does to me, as 'Affairs of state' would logically be  included in   
   >>>>>>the   
   >>>>>>"Affairs of this life" along with the other relevant  reasons I first   
   >>>>>>posted.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>Especially as the potential to go against Almighty God's own infallible   
   >>>>>>decisions as to who is fit to rule, may be entirely opposed to our own   
   >>>>>>weak   
   >>>>>>and bigoted personal thinking.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>After all,  how many professing Christians in Germany would have voted   
   >>>>>>to   
   >>>>>>put Adolf Hitler into power?   
   >>>   
   >>>>>Well then, who originated the doctrine that caused them to do so, and   
   >>>>>where may it be found?   
   >>>   
   >>>>There is no doctrine to do so, only a doctrine NOT to  be involved in the   
   >>>>secular "Affairs of this life" for the reasons already given.   
   >>   
   >>>So there is no "false doctrine" that the title of your original post   
   >>>suggests?   
   >>   
   >>LOL!   
   >>Yes there is a false doctrine, the one I first mentioned above   
   >>Steve......{;o;}   
   >>   
   >>Quote:   
   >>"A false doctrine:   
   >>Is one that allows God's Elect to  participate  in the political   
   >>"Affairs of this life"."   
   >>HTH.   
   >   
   >*Now you see it, now you don't.   
   >   
   >No! it's  still there Steve.   
   >   
   >"4 No man that warreth *entangleth* himself with the affairs  of this   
   >life*   
   >   
   >Which must include  'affairs of state'.....{;o;}   
      
   So is THAT the "false doctrine" you mention? The 'one that allows   
   God's Elect to  participate  in the political >"Affairs of this   
   life"."'?   
      
   It doesn't look like that to me, and I've already said so.   
      
   And you said there isn't such a doctrine, then you say there is,   
      
   Make up your mind.   
      
      
      
      
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   Steve Hayes   
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