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   Message 46,932 of 48,662   
   OMJ to All   
   No such thing as a Millennial reign of C   
   15 May 18 07:21:57   
   
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   We know that Satan has been deceiving fallen man since the Garden until now   
   and will continue to do so until he is destroyed on   
   Judgment Day, 2 Thes.2:1-12, which is yet another text of Holy Scripture   
   whereas Christ's return * IS * Judgment Day, v.8, the Last   
   Day, with the Day of Judgment and destruction of this present world occurring   
   on the very same day, 2 Pet.3:7. It can not be supposed   
   for a moment that what comes out of the pulpit is even remotely correct, 2   
   Tim.4:3,4 et al, in that fallen man is taught out of the   
   pulpit that he is not subject to the condemnations of Ro.3:10 and following...   
   fallen man is taught that he * Is * righteous but a   
   polluted sinner at the same time... righteous enough to suppose himself able   
   and worthy to save himself by properly invoking God to   
   save which, without fallen man so doing, remains condemned.   
      
   In this dwells deceit that he is righteous and wise enough to " accept Jesus "   
   to become saved... purely a righteous work on the part   
   of fallen man performed while fallen and under the condemnations of Ro.3:10   
   and following.   
      
   We know therefore that Satan is alive and well in the world right now. Man is   
   conceived in sin by his fallen parents, Ps.51:5. *That *   
   hasn't changed. More than half of Christendom is on their knees praying to   
   their female deity, *That* hasn't changed, and will continue   
   to do so up until the Last Day, the Day of Judgment, the Day Christ returns in   
   the clouds at which time comes His last act against sin,   
   sinner's and Satan... namely, the total and complete annihilation of this   
   present world gathered from the passages already given and   
   Rev.20, et al, Jer.46:10 context as well..   
      
   With sin in the world from the Garden to this day it is apparent that the   
   return of Christ in the clouds is due to fallen man's   
   insatiable love of sin, Jn.3:19 and fallen man's hatred of Christ,   
   Jn.15:18,19...His return is the end of sin. Should the   
   Millennialist's be correct then Christ would be governing in Person over this   
   sin polluted earth just as He is doing now but from   
   heaven, and, for another thousand earth years at that. That doesn't make a bit   
   of sense. Sin and death was certainly not propitiated   
   for the " whole world " by His death for it... the death of Christ is applied   
   by Him to His elect and to them alone, Jn. 3:16; 5:21;   
   10:11,15, et al... these and these alone are the objects of His saving death,   
   Jn.3:16, 1 Jn.2:2, whereas the * whole world * of the   
   non-elect are in an ever active sexual embrace with Satan, 1 Jn.5:19.  Because   
   Christ rules from heaven and always did, being here in   
   Person for another thousand years is never taught by Him from the Bible.    
   Sinful man was just as sinful face to face when the Lord   
   Jesus was here the first time. The Millennialist's try to make a case out of   
   Rev.20 but by so doing overrule and deny all text of Holy   
   Scripture already given in this post which tells us otherwise.   
      
   These text are as plain as day telling us Christ's return is for the salvation   
   of His elect and the damnation of the non-elect... this   
   old earth will be utterly destroyed and done away with, with the non-elect and   
   Satan and his horde with it, to make way for the new   
   heavens and new earth, 2 Pet.3. Forcing on the Scriptures the denominational   
   traditions of the Millennialist's, who preach salvation is   
   not by Christ alone, Jn.5:21, not decided by Him alone before the world began,   
   Eph.1:4, but by the joint effort of Christ and fallen   
   man's " accepting Him "... through a full willingness to turn from evil which   
   is all he knows and loves, Pv.13:19b...a scheme   
   completely foreign to Jn.1:12,13; 3:3 and 5:21 just to name a few, since   
   fallen man loves sin, Jn.3:19 and Satan, 1 Jn.5:19, because he   
   hates Jesus Christ, Jn.15:18, and can not right himself by keeping   
   commandments, being baptized in water, repenting nor by Sinner's   
   Prayer's. * That * would mean salvation is for the smart, only.   
      
   The gospels of the Millennialist's are the concoction of the non-elect for the   
   non-elect... a way for the non-elect to walk proudly   
   evidencing to the world that they've masterminded their own salvation because   
   they were smart enough to " accept Jesus " whereas those   
   stricken with brain diseases... the insane, the Autism sufferer, the Dementia   
   sufferer and so on, are incapable of the rational   
   righteous handling of their affairs and own free will whereas the self-elected   
   are.   
      
   How do these people get around Ps.50:16 to close ? To ask them is to converse   
   with Satan since the fallen Christian engineered his own   
   salvation and teaches other of the fallen to follow likewise.   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
   Knowing that the entire Word of God is in a parabolic form for the purpose of   
   teaching His elect while confusing the fallen be they   
   pretending salvation as they do by good works done by them while fallen, we,   
   on the other side of Christ,   
   Mt.25:31 to close ( yet another context telling us that Judgment Day will   
   happen the day Christ returns and not some 1000 years later )   
   we discover that the numbers in the Bible follow the pattern already briefly   
   given. 5 is the number of grace. Christ feed the 5000 with   
   the loafs and fishes. We can be certain no one of His disciples took a head   
   count of the persons present.   
      
   " The cattle on a thousand hills is Mine." Does this mean that at 1000 God   
   owns no more or does this mean everything there is to own is   
   indeed owned by god who made all things ? It is with this in mind when finding   
   numbers spoken of in Holy Scripture that numbers are to   
   be viewed else we go off on a tangent.   
      
   In Mt.18:24 the word translated " thousand " is not the same word so   
   translated " thousand " in Rev.20.   
      
      
      
      
      
   In Rev.20 the number 1000 speaks of   
      
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