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|    OMJ to All    |
|    No such thing as a Millennial reign of C    |
|    15 May 18 07:21:57    |
      XPost: alt.religion.christian.catholic, alt.religion.christian.romancatholic,       alt.recovery.catholicism       XPost: alt.religion.christian.eastorthodox, alt.religion.christian.lutheran,       alt.religion.gods       XPost: alt.god, alt.gods, alt.religion.christian.last-days       XPost: alt.christnet.religion, alt.christnet.eucharist, alt.religion.goddess       XPost: alt.religion.christian.greek-orthodox       From: source@data.net              We know that Satan has been deceiving fallen man since the Garden until now       and will continue to do so until he is destroyed on       Judgment Day, 2 Thes.2:1-12, which is yet another text of Holy Scripture       whereas Christ's return * IS * Judgment Day, v.8, the Last       Day, with the Day of Judgment and destruction of this present world occurring       on the very same day, 2 Pet.3:7. It can not be supposed       for a moment that what comes out of the pulpit is even remotely correct, 2       Tim.4:3,4 et al, in that fallen man is taught out of the       pulpit that he is not subject to the condemnations of Ro.3:10 and following...       fallen man is taught that he * Is * righteous but a       polluted sinner at the same time... righteous enough to suppose himself able       and worthy to save himself by properly invoking God to       save which, without fallen man so doing, remains condemned.              In this dwells deceit that he is righteous and wise enough to " accept Jesus "       to become saved... purely a righteous work on the part       of fallen man performed while fallen and under the condemnations of Ro.3:10       and following.              We know therefore that Satan is alive and well in the world right now. Man is       conceived in sin by his fallen parents, Ps.51:5. *That *       hasn't changed. More than half of Christendom is on their knees praying to       their female deity, *That* hasn't changed, and will continue       to do so up until the Last Day, the Day of Judgment, the Day Christ returns in       the clouds at which time comes His last act against sin,       sinner's and Satan... namely, the total and complete annihilation of this       present world gathered from the passages already given and       Rev.20, et al, Jer.46:10 context as well..              With sin in the world from the Garden to this day it is apparent that the       return of Christ in the clouds is due to fallen man's       insatiable love of sin, Jn.3:19 and fallen man's hatred of Christ,       Jn.15:18,19...His return is the end of sin. Should the       Millennialist's be correct then Christ would be governing in Person over this       sin polluted earth just as He is doing now but from       heaven, and, for another thousand earth years at that. That doesn't make a bit       of sense. Sin and death was certainly not propitiated       for the " whole world " by His death for it... the death of Christ is applied       by Him to His elect and to them alone, Jn. 3:16; 5:21;       10:11,15, et al... these and these alone are the objects of His saving death,       Jn.3:16, 1 Jn.2:2, whereas the * whole world * of the       non-elect are in an ever active sexual embrace with Satan, 1 Jn.5:19. Because       Christ rules from heaven and always did, being here in       Person for another thousand years is never taught by Him from the Bible.        Sinful man was just as sinful face to face when the Lord       Jesus was here the first time. The Millennialist's try to make a case out of       Rev.20 but by so doing overrule and deny all text of Holy       Scripture already given in this post which tells us otherwise.              These text are as plain as day telling us Christ's return is for the salvation       of His elect and the damnation of the non-elect... this       old earth will be utterly destroyed and done away with, with the non-elect and       Satan and his horde with it, to make way for the new       heavens and new earth, 2 Pet.3. Forcing on the Scriptures the denominational       traditions of the Millennialist's, who preach salvation is       not by Christ alone, Jn.5:21, not decided by Him alone before the world began,       Eph.1:4, but by the joint effort of Christ and fallen       man's " accepting Him "... through a full willingness to turn from evil which       is all he knows and loves, Pv.13:19b...a scheme       completely foreign to Jn.1:12,13; 3:3 and 5:21 just to name a few, since       fallen man loves sin, Jn.3:19 and Satan, 1 Jn.5:19, because he       hates Jesus Christ, Jn.15:18, and can not right himself by keeping       commandments, being baptized in water, repenting nor by Sinner's       Prayer's. * That * would mean salvation is for the smart, only.              The gospels of the Millennialist's are the concoction of the non-elect for the       non-elect... a way for the non-elect to walk proudly       evidencing to the world that they've masterminded their own salvation because       they were smart enough to " accept Jesus " whereas those       stricken with brain diseases... the insane, the Autism sufferer, the Dementia       sufferer and so on, are incapable of the rational       righteous handling of their affairs and own free will whereas the self-elected       are.              How do these people get around Ps.50:16 to close ? To ask them is to converse       with Satan since the fallen Christian engineered his own       salvation and teaches other of the fallen to follow likewise.                                                                                    Knowing that the entire Word of God is in a parabolic form for the purpose of       teaching His elect while confusing the fallen be they       pretending salvation as they do by good works done by them while fallen, we,       on the other side of Christ,       Mt.25:31 to close ( yet another context telling us that Judgment Day will       happen the day Christ returns and not some 1000 years later )       we discover that the numbers in the Bible follow the pattern already briefly       given. 5 is the number of grace. Christ feed the 5000 with       the loafs and fishes. We can be certain no one of His disciples took a head       count of the persons present.              " The cattle on a thousand hills is Mine." Does this mean that at 1000 God       owns no more or does this mean everything there is to own is       indeed owned by god who made all things ? It is with this in mind when finding       numbers spoken of in Holy Scripture that numbers are to       be viewed else we go off on a tangent.              In Mt.18:24 the word translated " thousand " is not the same word so       translated " thousand " in Rev.20.                                          In Rev.20 the number 1000 speaks of              ---       This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.       https://www.avast.com/antivirus              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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