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|    Oxford diocese in meltdown as clergy rej    |
|    11 Jan 19 10:46:40    |
      XPost: england.religion.christian, alt.religion.christian.episcopal,       alt.christian.religion       XPost: alt.religion.christianity, alt.christnet.ethics       From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net              Oxford diocese in meltdown as clergy reject bishops' view on sexuality              David Baker Wed 9 Jan 2019 9:18 GMT              The Church of England's Oxford diocese is facing an uncertain future       after a large group of its serving clergy publicly rejected their       bishops' views on sexuality.              A letter to the bishops signed by a wide grouping of more than 100       church ministers says that 'the situation [in the diocese] is serious.       If not addressed, we would all struggle to support the leadership of       our bishops in this matter and a number of our churches may want to       seek alternative means of receiving episcopal ministry, in recognition       that your position is seriously differentiated from theirs. This would       be a tragedy.'              University of Oxford       Reuters       The Oxford Diocese is facing a revolt by clergy over its leadership's       views on sexuality.       The warning comes in response to the Oxford bishops' offer of 'interim       LGBT guidance and support' in their diocese last October, in a move       seen by many as pre-empting the outcome of the official Church of       England 'Living in Love and Faith' discussions on sexuality, which       will not conclude until 2020.              The letter to the bishops was sent before Christmas, and in turn the       bishops have responded to the signatories with a statement of their       own. Christian Today understands both letters are to be circulated to       all clergy in the Oxford diocesan email news today, Wednesday. They       are now also in the public domain on the website of the Oxford       Diocesan Evangelical Fellowship.              Clergy signatories include conservative evangelical Canon Vaughan       Roberts, Rector of St Ebbe's Oxford, who has openly spoken of his       celibacy despite same-sex attraction, and the leading charismatic       churchman Canon Charlie Cleverly, Rector of St Aldate's, Oxford. Their       two congregations are among the largest in the diocese. There are also       signatories who are lay people and retired clergy, including the       distinguished author, evangelist and lecturer Dr Michael Green.              The letter says: 'Our overriding concern is with the direction of       travel which the Diocese is taking as revealed by this letter. In its       desire for new expressions of "inclusion", it could end up excluding       those who hold to the traditional teaching of Scripture and doing a       great disservice to those of us who experience same-sex attraction. We       are not here simply stating an aversion to change; we are, however,       convinced that failing to hold the Bible's teaching out to everyone,       including those who identify as LGBTI+, is to show a lack of that very       love the letter urges us to exhibit.'              They continue: 'As Bishop William Love of the Diocese of Albany in the       Episcopal Church of the USA said last month in relation to the       introduction of "blessings" for same-sex couples, it 'does a great       disservice and injustice to our gay and lesbian Brothers and Sisters       in Christ, by leading them to believe that God gives his blessing to       the sharing of sexual intimacy within a same-sex relationship, when in       fact He has reserved the gift of sexual intimacy for men and women       within the confines of marriage between a man and woman.'              In response, Bishop Steven Croft, Colin Fletcher, Alan Wilson and       Andrew Proud, write: 'There is no desire on our part to diminish       support for those who are seeking to uphold and to live within the       Church of England's current teaching. We have specifically included a       commitment to undertake some further listening here.'              They add: 'There is no intention either to exclude in any way those       who hold to the traditional teaching of Scripture now or in the       future... If the Church discerns that some further development in       polity is needed at this point on human sexuality, we will need to       take equal care both locally and nationally to honour and respect       those who continue to hold the traditional view.' However, such       reassurances are likely to be greeted with scepticism by       traditionalists, as similar promises about the ongoing place of 'two       integrities' in relation to the issue of women's ministry have not       been honoured by the Church of England.              Oxford diocese is the largest in the Church of England, with 626       parishes. The population is 2.2 million, but only 55,000 attend       Anglican churches regularly. There are 816 churches and around 400       paid clergy.              Last week the Church Times reported that the Living in Love and Faith       group 'will not pronounce on the rights or wrongs of same-sex       marriage'. Some interpreted this as an indication the existing       conservative position of the church would effectively be ongoing,       whereas others argued the decision not to make a pronouncement was       itself a de facto change in teaching.              The report also quoted the Bishop of Coventry, Christopher Cocksworth,       who chairs the group, as saying the project would be 'as much to do       with heterosexuality' since he believed people generally were 'in need       of wisdom to order their loving and sexing well'.              Source: https://t.co/mUvSX2vxiP                     --       Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa       Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm       Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com              For information about why crossposting is (usually) good, and multiposting       (nearly always) bad, see:       http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#xpost              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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