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   Troels Forchhammer to All   
   Thoughts on the Book of Lost Tales   
   27 Jun 09 11:56:50   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien, alt.fan.tolkien   
   From: Troels@ThisIsFake.invalid   
      
   I have just finished reading _The Book of Lost Tales_ 1 and 2 (BoLT).   
   Nothing special about that, but this is, I think, the first time I have   
   sat down and really read it from end to end. I have read it before --   
   or most of it -- but haphazardly a chapter here and a half chapter   
   there without system (other than on a 'need to know' basis), and I must   
   have skipped parts, because some things have struck me forcefully that   
   I did not remember seeing before.   
      
   There are in particular two things that have struck me as most   
   significant:   
      
   1: How much of the later structure that is already in evidence at this   
   early stage of Tolkien's 'developing mythology' (to use Christopher   
   Tolkien's (CJRT) words in the last page). Related to this is CJRT's   
   assertions that many things were maintained in his father's mind in the   
   later stages of this development even if they are not mentioned; I   
   suspect that he is speaking from explicit knowledge -- that his father   
   spoke with him about the mythology and that these conversations   
   demonstrated to CJRT that many aspects were still an integral part of   
   JRRT's conception, though they had never been mentioned since he wrote   
   BoLT.   
      
   2: The strong influence of 'fate,' of the Music, on the events of Arda,   
   and in particular for the Elves. This is much more explicit in BoLT   
   than in the later, post-LotR, stages of the mythology, though I also   
   agree with Verlyn Flieger that 'all the implications remain in the   
   published version.' (_Splintered Light_ Ch.15, p.130). Thus, in the   
   draft for 'The Music of the Ainur' (BoLT1), Tolkien explicitly stated   
   that the gift to Men was 'free will and the power of fashioning and   
   designing beyond the original music of the Ainu.' (BoLT1 Ch.2, note 12,   
   p.59) But also in the later descriptions of Melko's [sic] corruption of   
   the Gnomes in Valinor, where it is asked 'Nay, who shall say but that   
   all these deeds, even the seeming needless evil of Melko, were but a   
   portion of the destiny of old?' (BoLT1 Ch.6, p.156) and later in the   
   same chapter (p.167) this is emphasized again:   
      
         In sooth it is a matter for great wonder, the subtle   
       cunning of Melko -- for in those wild words who shall say   
       that there lurked not a sting of the minutest truth, nor   
       fail to marvel seeing the very words of Melko pouring from   
       Fëanor his foe, who knew not nor remembered whence was the   
       fountain of these thoughts; yet perchance the [?outmost]   
       origin of these sad things was before Melko himself, and   
       such things must be -- and the mystery of the jealousy of   
       Elves and Men is an unsolved riddle, one of the sorrows at   
       the world's dim roots.   
     (_The Book of Lost Tales 1_ Ch. 6, p. 167)   
      
   The meaning is clearly that these events were 'fated' -- that they were   
   inevitable.   
      
      
   Other things are, of course, also noteworthy. In the first narrative   
   setting, what CJRT calls the 'Eriol story,' Tol Eressëa really _is_   
   England, and in the later narrative setting, the 'Ælfwine story,'   
   England is still a crucial element -- the old land of the Elves that is   
   explicitly and deliberately copied in Tol Eressëa. Thus these first   
   stages of Tolkien's mythology appear to me not only, as Carpenter put   
   it, a 'mythology _for_ England' (emphasis mine), but actually a   
   mythology _about_ England. This aspect gradually faded (it is still   
   detectable in the early Silmarillion texts).   
      
      
   And now for reading Rateliff's _The History of The Hobbit_ . . . :-)   
      
      
   (Cross-posted to the rec.arts.books.tolkien, alt.fan.tolkien and   
   alt.books.inklings at the behest of members of these erudite   
   communities)   
      
   --   
   Troels Forchhammer   
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