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   From: bredband.net@ojevind.lang   
      
   "Troels Forchhammer"  skrev i meddelandet   
   news:Xns9C667B112F7D6T.Forch@147.243.252.16...   
      
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   > But perhaps it isn't even necessary to give specific names or to   
   > point at well-defined groups -- as I recall Shippey's argument, he   
   > claims that some views have become established as elitist to the   
   > point where, if you have any desire to be considered a part of the   
   > 'real' (another meaningless word in context) literary elite, you must   
   > assume these views -- which, again as I recall Shippey (and possibly   
   > loosely interpret his text), include a condescending attitude towards   
   > science fiction and fantasy.   
      
   Unfortunately, that attitude still exists. However, it was undermined by   
   Peter Jackson's films, which many wannabe elite critics clearly saw and   
   enjoyed. Now it is fashionable among younger critics to claim that PJ has   
   "trimmed and shaped up" Tolkien's "clunky writing". Which is another way of   
   saying that younger literati on the make don't really enjoy reading books   
   that put any kind of demand on the reader, except when there's some kind of   
   reward for it. Those who manage to wade through Proust would probably brag   
   about it.   
     Though of course, I should add that there are many people who genuinely   
   appreciate Proust. And there *are* conscientious, honest critics whose   
   assessments one can respect.   
      
   Öjevind   
      
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