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   From: bredband.net@ojevind.lang   
      
   "John W Kennedy"  skrev i meddelandet   
   news:4a8f511d$0$22507$607ed4bc@cv.net...   
   > On 8/21/09 9:26 PM, Öjevind Lång wrote:   
      
   [snip]   
      
   >>>> Yes -- he claims that 'It's the ship that made the Kessel run in less   
   >>>> than twelve parsecs!'   
   >>>   
   >>> Hey - don't use me to justify your statement! I think John's objection   
   >>> is   
   >>> to "then asked Luke to guess how many parsecs..." - that didn't happen.   
   >>> Luke thought the Millenium Falcon was a heap of junk, so Solo had to   
   >>> brag   
   >>> about just how good it was.   
   >>   
   >> But that *is*quibbling - John claimed that "parsec" culd be used as a   
   >> speed measurement.   
   >   
   > No, I did not.   
      
   You didn't? Well, let me see. Oh yes, that's right. You claimed that Han   
   Solo merely stated that the Kessler Run *was* a certain number  of parsecs   
   when he was bragging  about how fast his ship was. Let me once more qote   
   your own words to that effect - the ones you snipped from my previous post:   
      
   "Strictly speaking, his statement (at least in the original English) does   
   not specify speed -- only that he achieved a specific voyage within a   
   certain number of parsecs."   
      
   However, Han Solo was bragging about the speed of his ship. Let me *once   
   more* point out, as have others, that Solo says: "It's the ship that made   
   the Kessel run in less than twelve parsecs!" and claims this is a proof of   
   how fast his vessel is.   
     You claimed that "his statement (at least in the original English) does   
   not specify speed". That's rubbish.  To demonstrate how swift his ship is,   
   he claims that his ship made the Kessler Run "in less than twelve parsecs".   
   He does so in a way that clearly uses parsecs as a measurement of speed,   
   which is rubbish too. Of course, I know why you quibble about this. It is   
   because you  can't admit that you were wrong.   
     As far as I am concerned, the discussion ends here, because the only way   
   left to once more demonstrate that you are trying to cover up the ignorance   
   in your original stament (I repeat, the statement that it "does not specify   
   speed") would be using crayons..   
      
   Öjevind   
      
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