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   From: Troels@ThisIsFake.invalid   
      
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   Zorag  spoke these staves:   
   >   
   > On Aug 22, Troels Forchhammer wrote:   
   >>   
   >> If this had been a matter of Han's abilities as a pilot, I'd have   
   >> gone with it, but in this case, Solo's boast is a direct reaction   
   >> to Ben's question about the ship itself -- fancy navigation has   
   >> nothing to do with the speed of the ship.   
   >   
   > Unless the unique qualities of the Falcon allow it to take the   
   > shorter, faster route....  Yes, I'm really reaching here....   
      
   Of course this is physically possible -- there whole point in the   
   concept of 'escape velocity' is that you need to be able to attain a   
   certain velocity in order to escape a gravitational potential well,   
   but it is nevertheless a ludicrous answer to the question of whether   
   the vessel is fast -- it is that which is at the heart of this; for   
   me at least :-/   
      
      
      
   >> (I sincerely hope that we are not that dismissive and   
   >> condescending -- not even to people who say that the Jackson team   
   >> did a good job fixing Tolkien's mistakes . . .. And if it has   
   >> happened, I'd like to express my embarrassed apologies).   
   >   
   > Maybe the difference is that Tolkien was a bit more careful about   
   > certain things, especially language, than Lucas or the other folks   
   > involved in Star Wars, so our rationalizations do not have to be   
   > quite so convoluted?  But even so, I'm sure there are some   
   > dismissive and condescending Tolkien fans out there.  Tis the   
   > nature of the internet, I think.  Can bring out the best and worst   
   > of people.   
      
   I'm afraid that I was selfish enough to think of AFT and RABT, just   
   us, here on usenet :-)   
      
   Not that I believe for a moment that everybody who come here is   
   automatically met with warm fuzziness -- I'm sure that we can be   
   harsh and unwelcoming, arguing a point till Hell freezes over (and   
   thaws again), having little patience with anyone who'd claim that   
   Tolkien was racist (or that they have 'solved' the Balrog wings   
   problem) etc. etc. But the degree of condescension I saw made me   
   worry -- precisely because this _is_ the internet and it is too easy   
   to just snub people that you will never see in real life.   
      
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   Troels Forchhammer   
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