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   From: ojevind.lang@bredband.net   
      
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   On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 04:36:15 -0800 (PST), JJ   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Dec 2, 1:23 pm, Steve Hayes  wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 03:16:49 -0800 (PST), JJ    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >On Dec 1, 6:52 am, Steve Hayes  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >> JRR Tolkien s Prologue to The Lord of the Rings contains a section   
   >> >> titled   
   >> >> Concerning Hobbits, which tells us that the Harfoots (apparently   
   >> >> ancestors of the Bagginses and other Hobbits of the Shire) were   
   >> >> browner   
   >> >> of skin than other Hobbits. It would seem that most Hobbits in the   
   >> >> Third   
   >> >> Age might be considered people of color.   
   >> >Not really - they were agricultural labourers, accustomed to working   
   >> >outdoors all their lives, and so were tanned. You have to remember   
   >> >that the Shire was England several generations ago, when all the   
   >> >inhabitants were Caucasian; as indeed they were through most of   
   >> >Tolkien's lifetime.   
   >>   
   >> Pakistanis are also Caucasian, and far closer to the Caucasus than Brits.   
   >>   
   >You're wriggling.  Can I change 'Caucasian' (where does this word come   
   >from?) to 'white'? Or does this prove that I am a nazi fascist racist?   
      
   > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race   
      
   I don't knoiw of nay European who takes the silly term "Caucasian" for   
   "white person" or "European" seriously. A Caucasian is someone from the   
   Caucasus (Armenian, Georgian, Abchaz , Ossetian and so on), period.   
      
   Öjevind   
      
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