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   From: mr@sandman.net   
      
   In article ,   
    Steve Hayes wrote:   
      
   > >But, in relation to TH, when did the Council move against Dol Goldur   
   > >then? Because they did so knowing he was Sauron (again, in the revised   
   > >story line), which Gandalf found out by sneaking into Dol Goldur prior   
   > >to that event, which as far as I know, takes place at least in the   
   > >same year as TH.   
   >   
   > To take an example from another book, or series of books, at which point did   
   > who realise that "You know who" was Tom Riddle?   
      
   Uh, but that would be an open-ended identity left unrevealed until   
   later in the story for the sake of effect.   
      
   > Gandalf no doubt knew, but in "The Hobbit" he gave information to the dwarves   
   > and Bilbo on a "need to know" basis. The Necromancer was a shadowy figure of   
   > evil that they must steer clear of. Only when they had to deal directly with   
   > him and his growing power in LotR did they need to put all the information on   
   > the table.   
      
   My question pertains to timeline only, really. At one point, Gandalf   
   found out that The Necromancer was Sauron, did this occur before,   
   after or during the events of TH?   
      
      
      
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