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   Prai Jei to All   
   Re: The Two Gelmirs   
   20 Nov 11 20:20:15   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien, alt.fan.tolkien   
   From: pvstownsend.zyx.abc@ntlworld.com   
      
   Steve Morrison set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time   
   continuum:   
      
   > How could there have been two Gelmirs? Tolkien makes it very clear   
   > that Elvish names are never, ever repeated; he found it necessary to   
   > write an entire essay about Glorfindel explaining how Glorfindel of   
   > Gondolin could be the same person as Glorfindel of Rivendell. And   
   > yet two distinct elves in the /Silm/ had the name Gelmir. The first   
   > was the brother of Gwindor of Nargothrond, who was captured in the   
   > Bragollach and murdered at the beginning of the Nirnaeth. The second   
   > was the companion of Arminas, who met Tuor and showed him the Gate   
   > of the Noldor (and later met Túrin in Nargothrond). The Index to the   
   > /Silm/ even has two entries under "Gelmir". Any thoughts on how to   
   > resolve the discrepancy?   
      
   Did their lives overlap? If not then one was the reincarnation of the other   
   as with Glorfindel.   
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