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   Steve Hayes to hayesstw@telkomsa.net   
   Re: The probl;em of Susan   
   22 Feb 16 19:44:05   
   
   XPost: alt.books.cs-lewis   
   From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net   
      
   On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 11:05:49 +0200, Steve Hayes   
    wrote:   
      
   >I think this view comes from reading stuff into the text that is   
   >simply not there, and assuming that Lewis is some kind of American   
   >Fendamentalist Baptist. What Lewis (or his characters, one older and   
   >one younger than Susan) actually say is that Susan's idea of being   
   >"grown up" pretty superficial, being concerned with image rather than   
   >substance. Neither of them mention "boys" at all. The younger, Jill   
   >Pole, mentions nylons (fashion), lipstick (appearance) and invitations   
   >(popularity) -- all of which suggest the prodigal son in the far   
   >country, whose notion of grown-up sexuality appeared to be as grown-up   
   >as an "adult" shop.   
      
   I believe that this article deals with the same problem, and that C.S.   
   Lewis was doubtless aware of it, and perhaps even had it in mind when   
   he wrote about Susan. in "The Last Battle"   
      
      
   Students with consumer mindset ‘get lower grades’   
      
   Study suggests ‘higher consumer orientation associated with lower   
   academic performance’   
   February 16, 2016   
      
       By John Morgan   
       Twitter: @JMorganTHE   
      
   Students who see themselves as consumers rather than learners tend to   
   perform more poorly academically, according to a study.   
      
   A survey completed by 608 students from 35 English universities formed   
   the basis for the study, published in Studies in Higher Education,   
   that found a “higher consumer orientation was associated with lower   
   academic performance”.   
      
   The article, titled "The student-as-consumer approach in higher   
   education and its effects on academic performance", was written by   
   Louise Bunce, senior lecturer in psychology at the University of   
   Winchester; Amy Baird, of the department of psychology at Winchester;   
   and Siân Jones, teaching fellow in psychology at Goldsmiths,   
   University of London.   
      
   In light of a trend in which a “consumer identity appears to be   
   increasingly recognised by students”, the authors set out to “conduct   
   an empirical test of the hypothesis that there would be a negative   
   relationship between the extent to which a student expressed a   
   consumer orientation to their studies and their level of academic   
   performance”.   
      
   The survey saw participants presented with consumer statements such as   
   “I think of my university degree as a product I am purchasing” and   
   “learner identity” statements such as “I want to expand my   
   intellectual ability”.   
      
   Participants responded to each statement using a seven-point scale   
   indicating how strongly they agreed or disagreed.   
      
   They were also asked to give their “most recent grade for an assessed   
   piece of work to measure academic performance”.   
      
   The authors state that “a lower learner identity was associated with a   
   higher consumer orientation, and in turn with lower academic   
   performance”.   
      
   However, the authors do say that limitations of the research include   
   the fact that “the measure of academic performance was a student’s   
   self-reported most recent grade”, as grade point average scores were   
   not available in the UK.   
      
   The authors say that there should be further research on the   
   students-as-consumers approach in higher education to “help mitigate   
   its negative effects on academic performance”.   
      
   Dr Bunce said: “While it is positive that universities are expected to   
   offer more value to students as a result of higher tuition fees,   
   students also need to be aware that learning cannot be bought.   
      
   “Government, too, should be cautious when talking about the ‘value’ of   
   higher education purely in terms of a financial transaction as it may   
   encourage students to feel like they are simply buying their degree.   
   As a result, they may start to develop a ‘you teach me’ attitude   
   rather than one that fosters effortful engagement with their chosen   
   subject.”   
      
   john.morgan@tesglobal.com   
      
   https://t.co/lH59tQXDFI   
      
      
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   Steve Hayes   
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