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   From: mybaconbutty@hotmail.com   
      
   On Thu, 19 May 2016 08:16:18 -0700, Mack A. Damia   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Thu, 19 May 2016 03:16:09 -0400, Tak To    
   >wrote:   
   >   
   >>On 5/18/2016 4:49 AM, Anton Shepelev wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> As Leon Trotsky said, in order to straighten a stick   
   >>> one must bend it the other way.   
   >>   
   >>Mao Zedong said almost the exact same thing[1] a couple   
   >>of years earlier (1927 vs 1930). I often wonder if   
   >>there was a common origin.   
   >>   
   >>[1] ?????????? (Study Report on the Peasant Movements   
   >> in Hunan)   
   >   
   >Vladimir Ilich Lenin.   
   >   
   >".... it is (Julius) Martov—who in this same series of meetings   
   >becomes the leader of the Menshevik faction of the Russian party—who   
   >says that Lenin “made a confession to us” that “‘the stick had been   
   >bent in one direction, and so we bent it the other way.’........   
   >Depending on which translation you use, Lenin may have also used the   
   >metaphor in the 1903 debates, saying—either “We all know that the   
   >economists bent the stick in one direction. In order to straighten the   
   >stick it was necessary to bend it in the other direction, and that is   
   >what I did,”...."   
   >   
   >http://isreview.org/issue/61/lenins-stickbending   
      
   Apparently, the idea originates in Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics.   
      
   "We must drag ourselves away to the contrary extreme; for we shall get   
   into the intermediate state by drawing well away from error, as people   
   do in straightening sticks that are bent."   
      
   http://nothingistic.org/library/aristotle/nicomachean/nicomachean12.html   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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