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   XPost: alt.religion.christianity, alt.christnet.satanism   
   From: psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid   
      
   On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 20:23:02 +0200, Steve Hayes   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 09:52:34 -0700, Paul S Person   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 03:19:42 +0200, Steve Hayes   
   >> wrote:   
   >   
   >>>Aye, but the original source material is what you would need to   
   >>>consider if you were trying to find out whether Satanism preceded   
   >>>Christianity.   
   >>   
   >>It occurred to me that I don't know what you are actually looking for:   
   >   
   >Well the original question on Quora was "did Satanism predate   
   >Christianity?"   
   >   
   >And my answer was No, I thought it onlt appeared about the   
   >Renaissance, and wasn't aware of any evidedence before that,   
   >   
   >So my question here was whether anyone was aware of any evidence for   
   >Satanisn before the Renaissance.   
      
      
      
   >>2. Just because some ancient author /says/ so-and-so worshipped Satan   
   >>doesn't mean they actually did. And finding documentary evidence for   
   >>/actual/ Satanism may not be easy: not only would any documents have   
   >>most likely been burned by the Church (or scraped clean and reused by   
   >>the Monks), but it is not clear that there would be any to begin with.   
   >   
   >But even knowing that some ancient autgher said it would mean that the   
   >concept was there   
      
   OK, then try this on: (/Satan/, op cit, p 81) Iranaeus "The Devil ...   
   tries to persuade us to worship him".   
      
   Since the name doesn't matter, is this close enough to establish the   
   /concept/ of "Satanism" ("worship of the Devil") as existing prior to   
   200 AD?   
      
      
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