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   Paul S Person to schlomo.goldberg@mailinator.com   
   Re: 'The Lord of the Rings' Is Not the F   
   12 Oct 24 09:02:12   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien, rec.arts.books   
   From: psperson@old.netcom.invalid   
      
   On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 18:43:06 -0000 (UTC), Schlomo Goldberg   
    wrote:   
      
   >Steve Hayes  writes:   
   >   
   >> 'The Lord of the Rings' Is Not the Far Right's Playground (extract)   
   >   
   >Are you sure Tolkien wasn't far right? I mean, he definitely wrote how   
   >Western European-looking people were protecting their homelands from   
   >hordes of nigg... I mean, orcs.   
      
   In one of his letters, Tolkien described how he thought Orcs should be   
   portrayed in a projected movie (never done).   
      
   The description matches the one for "Huns" (IIRC, could be "Mongols")   
   in Gibbons. So, no, they were protecting their lands from people who   
   fit the stereotype. Hun or Mongol, they made a lasting impression on   
   the European mind.   
      
   The Southrons, OTOH ... but they were just a conquered category of Men   
   (as were the Wainrider Eastrons), not Orcs. In the book, Sam even   
   develops some sympathy for one of them. And they pose a threat to   
   Gondor that reduces Gondor's defences at the critical time.   
      
   >Aragorn was Dúnedain:   
   >   
   >> In J. R. R. Tolkien's Middle-earth writings, the Dúnedain   
   >> (/?du?n?da?n/; singular: Dúnadan, "Man of the West") were a race of   
   >> Men, also known as the Númenóreans or Men of Westernesse (translated   
   >> from the Sindarin term).   
      
   The Dúnedain in Middle Earth were only a part of the population. The   
   main Man ruler, Denethor, was not a pureblood Dúnedan, for example.   
   Yet he and his two sons did a great deal to hold back Sauron (Faramir   
   being, of course, rather more successful).   
      
   The Far Right is also the group the howled when /The Hunger Games/   
   came out because they thought it was a world with no non-whites in it.   
   The Far Right is a bunch of ninnies who project their foul beliefs   
   onto anything they can.   
   --    
   "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,   
   Who evil spoke of everyone but God,   
   Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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