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   From: hayesstw@yahoo.com   
      
   On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 02:56:50 -0500, "Ash Wyrd"    
   wrote:   
      
   >   
   >"wrob"  wrote in message news:3F4C206C.481DD4D3@erols.com...   
   >> Ash Wyrd wrote:   
   >>   
   >> > Just to be pedantic, Catholics are not baptized, but merely   
   >sprinkled.... I   
   >> > won't say that the symbolism isn't just as strong, nor that its not just   
   >as   
   >> > much an obedience to the call of Yahweh in their hearts... but I don't   
   >> > really see how that can be called baptism   
   >>   
   >> If you don't call it baptism then by theological definition they are   
   >either   
   >> anabaptists or heathens.  Sounds to me like some people have some hangups   
   >> about someone else's religious belief about how to attain salvation...   
   >> oh well.  I happen to agree with Pope Origen on this matter.  -Ber   
   >   
   >Salvation (according to the Christian belief system) comes from accepting   
   >christ (the son)... Baptism with water is a symbol of obedience mainly to   
   >Yahweh (the father)... and the ritual of the pentacaust is most often   
   >connected to Elohiem (the spirit(s)).... I don't particularly prescribe to   
   >any particular dogma, but I respect the dogma that others prescribe to.   
      
   Your knowledge of Christian theology seems to be as unreliable as your   
   knowledge of the English language.   
      
   Get a dictionary, and look up "prescribe" and "subscribe", for a start.   
      
   A good place to go after that might be "baptism".   
      
      
      
      
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