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   Message 286 of 1,925   
   Siwel Naph to Bree   
   Re: The Lion, the Which and the Wardrobe   
   06 Oct 05 09:15:10   
   
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   Bree wrote:   
      
   >>> From Erewhon, I presume.   
   >>   
   >>Yis.   
   >   
   > Lost me. I expected  'Sey.'  Or perhaps  'Roph erus.'   
      
   "Yis" is how outsiders hear the Erewhonian pronunciation.   
      
   >> because they have to work off their own bad karma by suffering?   
   >   
   > I'm not sure the karma theories reallly say that.  There's lots of   
   > different ones.   
   >   
   > Lewis did support an orthodox Christian doctrine of pain being   
   > necessary for clensing from sin. See Eustace and the dragon skin,   
   > PROBLEM OF PAIN, and remarks about Purgatory.   
   >   
   > Anyway, the bottom line that the karmic religions agree on (with a few   
   > marginal snake handler exceptions, maybe, tho I'll believe in them   
   > when one of them shows up here) is that we DO get good karma for doing   
   > good deeds, and that's a major factor in salvation, almost the only   
   > factor worth thinking about for some people. (Doing good deeds and   
   > getting good karma in this lifetime, gets them to a future life where   
   > they _can_ think about other factors. :)   
   >   
   > Most Christians say it's better not to have a selfish motive for the   
   > good deed: neither   
   >   
   > 1) 'I'll need this hospital myself in the future' nor   
   >   
   > 2) 'Donating will help me get to heaven.'   
      
   Yes, Lewis had a lot to say about thought of personal gain contaminating   
   the will.   
      
   > Hm, the karmic religions do emphasize 2) but rebirth sort of   
   > eliminates 1).   
      
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