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   AJA to John McComb   
   Re: Pacifism (was Re: The Lion, the Whic   
   07 Oct 05 10:23:30   
   
   XPost: alt.books.cs-lewis   
   From: ahnemann@optonline.net   
      
   "John McComb"  wrote in message   
   news:c7i1f.7655$Io.6698@clgrps13...   
   > AJA wrote:   
   >   
   >> Read 'Why I Am Not a Pacifist' in _The Weight of Glory_ for Lewis' actual   
   >> take on Pacifism.   
   >> It is a most carefully reasoned case against pacifism.  This case is   
   >> distinctly not about grumblings of a veteran.  And beside this argument   
   >> _by_ a veteran of a terrible war, my more complacent pacifism is more   
   >> like cowardice.  That is the context in which I made my comments.   
   >   
   > O.K. In that case maybe he was more parochial in some ways   
   > than I had previously surmised. But then again, how you label   
   > such things is going to depend on one's own view of the world.   
   > I have not read this essay and I am not sure I'm clear exactly   
   > what we're talking about here when we say 'pacifism'.   
      
   Pacifism for Lewis was "peace at all cost".  And of course, he, being a   
   realist, says that peace costs _someone_ a great deal.   
   You will have to read the essay to get more.   
   I can't comment on what Lewis would have said about Quakers, and others who   
   don't fight out of religious belief.   
   Except a letter 23 april, '51 where he mentions having fallen into a new   
   type: "bigoted & proselytizing Quakers."  ??  And 1 april, '52  "atrocious   
   bigots whose religion seems to consist almost entirely in attacking other   
   people's religions."  Discussing what the word 'Christian' means in a letter   
   8 september 1959 "..it seems to be more useful not to classify Quakers as   
   Christians..."   
   Lewis must have had a bad run-in with Quakers, no?  :))   
   Just an aside, my experience of same, having attending a Quaker college for   
   my undergrad work (during the Vietnam War) was distinctly different than the   
   above.  Not that that means anything.   
   Thanks for the rest of your thoughtful post, John.   
   Blessings,   
   Ann   
      
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