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   From: joseph@nospam.com   
      
   > "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword", I believe a   
   > religious figure said.   
      
   Yes, but that's only if you *live* by the sword.   
      
   If you *defend* yourself by the sword, you're actually less likely to die by   
   the sword, than if you don't!   
      
   - Joseph   
      
   "Stan Brown"  wrote in message   
   news:MPG.1db38cc9afea005098996a@news.individual.net...   
   > On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:49:49 -0400 in rec.arts.books.tolkien, Robert   
   > J. Kolker favored us with...   
   >> Stan Brown wrote:   
   >> > Compelling Isildur to give up the Ring would be acting like Ring-   
   >> > lords themselves. By "winning" they would lose.   
   >>   
   >> Every time I hear this "let's not stoop to the level of our enemies"   
   >> crap I reach for my Uzi.   
   >   
   > Thus proving my point.   
   >   
   > "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword", I believe a   
   > religious figure said.   
   >   
   > --   
   > Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA   
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