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   Message 362 of 1,925   
   Morgil to Joseph   
   Re: Can you love your enemy and still ki   
   10 Oct 05 05:49:39   
   
   XPost: alt.books.cs-lewis, rec.arts.books.tolkien   
   From: morestelx@hotmail.com   
      
   Joseph wrote:   
   >>Movie-ism. Gandalf makes it quite clear in the book that   
   >>the Ring was even more dangerous for those who held great   
   >>power themselves. He himself would not take it even for   
   >>safekeeping.   
   >   
   >   
   > I disagree. Gandalf had the strength NOT to take the ring!   
      
   You disagree with what? Gandalf did not take the Ring because   
   he was wise enough to know that it was too strong for him.   
   But what would be your advice to Isildur, Elrond and Cirdan?   
   Are you saying they should have left the Ring to lie there,   
   since taking it would be a sign of inherent weakness? They   
   would have to take it first if they wanted to destroy it,   
   so how would you have solved this dilemma?   
      
     True strength   
   > should not be measured as the ability to withstand *external* pressures and   
   > forces. True strength is the ability to control *one's own* drives and   
   > desires. Gandalf had this strength. That was Tolkien's point.   
      
   So did Faramir, and Faramir was... wait for it - a Man!   
      
   Morgil   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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