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   Message 372 of 1,925   
   Joseph to Morgil   
   Re: Can you love your enemy and still ki   
   10 Oct 05 10:33:16   
   
   XPost: alt.books.cs-lewis, rec.arts.books.tolkien   
   From: joseph@nospam.com   
      
   "Morgil"   
   > This idea is so weird that even the filmmakers didn't come up   
   > with anything like it. If Elrond or Gandalf had known another   
   > way to destroy the Ring, they most certainly would have used it.   
      
   And what would be the position of man in today's world? Housepet to the   
   Elves?   
      
   But hey, feel free to write your own. I guess it would be a short-story,   
   rather than a trilogy.   
      
   - Joseph   
      
   "Morgil"  wrote in message   
   news:did1r8$4le$1@nyytiset.pp.htv.fi...   
   > Joseph wrote:   
   >   
   >> It was time for the race of Men to inherit ME. In order for them to grow   
   >> into the position of responsible custodians of ME, and of their own   
   >> destiny, they would have to *earn* ME, not have it handed to them on a   
   >> silver platter. The task at hand would be for *men* to overcome their own   
   >> weakness for power and thereby earn the custodianship of ME. This theme   
   >> is inherent in the basic argument of Tolkien's LOTR. This is *not* an   
   >> invention of the movie.   
   >   
   > BTW, the idea that desire for power was a particular weakness   
   > of Men is also a movie fabrication. In Tolkien's Middle-earth   
   > the unique weakness of Men was a desire for immortality.   
   >   
   >> Elrond didn't compel Isildur to destroy the ring, because that wouldn't   
   >> have acheived the stated goal (Tolkien's goal). The goal was never to   
   >> simply have the ring destroyed, but rather to have *man* destroy the   
   >> ring.   
   >   
   > This idea is so weird that even the filmmakers didn't come up   
   > with anything like it. If Elrond or Gandalf had known another   
   > way to destroy the Ring, they most certainly would have used it.   
   >   
   > Morgil   
      
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