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   From: hayesmstw@hotmail.com   
      
   On 11 Oct 2005 09:23:38 GMT, Siwel Naph  wrote:   
      
   >Steve Hayes wrote:   
   >   
   >>>> I'd be interested to know whether you think the Church would have   
   >>>> behaved worse or better had it won the ascendency in Japan its   
   >>>> martyrs were seeking.   
   >   
   >>>But I may want to take umbrage at the last phrase.  The victims were   
   >>>not just a bunch of crazy missionaries going in and declaring   
   >>>"Convert, or die, or kill me!"  There were lots of Japanese people who   
   >>>had decided to adopt this dangerous foreign religion. If I'm wrong   
   >>>about this, and the ones killed had sought martyrdom by making public   
   >>>disturbances that gave the authorities no alternative to killing them,   
   >>>please let me know, with citations.   
   >>   
   >> Well yes, it does come across as overweeningly arrogant --   
   >   
   >To someone who doesn't understand traditional Christianity, maybe.   
      
   See what I mean?   
      
   I rest my case.   
      
      
      
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