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   From: tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us   
      
   nystulc@cs.com wrote:   
      
   > Tim Bruening wrote:   
   > > nystulc@cs.com wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > Steuard Jensen wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > In /Dawn Treader/, we suddenly learn about a bunch of islands out to   
   > > > > the East, many populated by humans (do we ever see a talking beast out   
   > > > > there at all?).  And you can't just assume that they were settled by   
   > > > > the Telmarines, because there are comments that the Lone Islands were   
   > > > > controlled by Narnia in Peter's day and before.   
   >   
   > Incidentally, the fact that the lone Islands were controlled by Narnia   
   > in Peter's day (and before that, in Jadis' day), would not prevent them   
   > from being founded by Telmarine descendants.  We have no knowledge of   
   > when Telmar was founded -- it could have been thousands of years before   
   > Peter.   
   >   
   > Moreover, in LWW, Jadis specifically says that she has heard of doors   
   > to the "World of Men".  Perhaps she is thinking of the gate that   
   > admitted the Telmarines -- but in any event, Aslan makes clear in   
   > Prince Caspian that there have been many such gateways.   
   >   
   > > > The first mention of the Lone Islands, of course, comes in Lion the   
   > > > Witch and the Wardrobe.  Jadis is Queen of Narnia and Empress of the   
   > > > Lone Islands.   
   > >   
   > > Did her Endless Winter spell affect the Lone Islands?   
   >   
   > Lewis never says.  However, as far as we know the Endless Winter spell   
   > only affects "Narnia".  Since the Lone Islands are not "Narnia", the   
   > logical answer is "No."   
   >   
   > The language used makes clear that Narnia is a "Kingdom" and Jadis   
   > claims to be its "Queen" (= the female ruler of a kingdom).  However,   
   > her dominion extends beyond the Kingdom of Narnia, and includes the   
   > "Lone Islands, etc.", so she has an empire (= a dominion that extends   
   > beyond a single kingdom), and it is in this capacity that she claims to   
   > be an "Empress" (= the female ruler of an empire).   
   >   
   > Therefore, the Lone Islands are not part of Narnia proper.   
      
   Why didn't she try to conquer Archenland and Calormen to make Narnia a World   
   Empire?   
      
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