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   A Tsar Is Born to Steve Hayes   
   Re: Fenris Wolf   
   27 Oct 03 21:21:10   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books.childrens, alt.books.cs-lewis, rec.arts.books.tolkien   
   From: AtsarisbornNoSpam@hotmail.com   
      
   I missed the beginning of this thread, but the Fenris Wolf is one of Loki's   
   children in the Eddas, and the word for dwarves in Tolkien is "Naugrim,"   
   which Lewis might well have misunderstood on hearing JRRT read it aloud to   
   the Inklings.   
      
   Tsar Parmathule   
      
   "Steve Hayes"  wrote in message   
   news:3f9d311a.85423465@news.saix.net...   
   > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 05:02:14 GMT, hayesstw.spamless@yahoo.com (Steve   
   Hayes)   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   > >Searches on Maugrim and mythology and Maugrim and Norse only brought   
   links to   
   > >Guy Gabrial Kay's "Fionavar" trilogy. If there is a link between the name   
   > >Maugrim and Norse mythology, I haven't found it, but if anyone can find a   
   > >reference in the Eddas or something I'd like to hear from them.   
   >   
   > Just another follow-up to this.   
   >   
   > I wrote to the webmaster of the Guy Gavriel Kay web site, and got this   
   reply:   
   >   
   > -- quote --   
   >   
   > Generally speaking, when a character in a GGK novel has the same name as   
   > one in another fantasy book, it's because both authors have gone to the   
   > original sources and used names, rather than GGK borrowing names from that   
   > author. I asked him your question, and he said he remembers being amused   
   > to see the name Maugrim when he watched the BBC adaptation of Lewis, but   
   > he hadn't had a memory of it beforehand; although he'd read the books they   
   > weren't that important to him. He does very much respect Alan Garner's   
   > work and said that he did get steered to the Norse 'lios alfar' and 'svart   
   > alfar' usage through Garner. He also doesn't remember any specific source   
   > for the name Maugrim - sorry we couldn't be of more help.   
   >   
   > -- end quote --   
   >   
   > So, unless someone can come up with a source in Norse (or any other)   
   > mythology, it looks as though the name was invented by Lewis, or adapted   
   by   
   > him from Tolkien, and borrowed from Lewis, albeit unconsciously, by Kay.   
   >   
   >   
   > --   
   > Steve Hayes   
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