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   Steve Hayes to AtsarisbornNoSpam@hotmail.com   
   Re: Fenris Wolf   
   28 Oct 03 03:10:24   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books.childrens, alt.books.cs-lewis, rec.arts.books.tolkien   
   From: hayesmstw@hotmail.com   
      
   On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:21:10 GMT, "A Tsar Is Born"   
    wrote:   
      
   >I missed the beginning of this thread, but the Fenris Wolf is one of Loki's   
   >children in the Eddas, and the word for dwarves in Tolkien is "Naugrim,"   
   >which Lewis might well have misunderstood on hearing JRRT read it aloud to   
   >the Inklings.   
      
   Yes, someone suggested that possibility, but in but Lewis and Tolkien,   
   dwarfs/dwarves don't seem to be Gestapo/KGB material, and Maugrim is   
   undoubtedly a Gestapo/KGB figure.   
      
   Kay has given the name Maugrim to his evil god, it appears, but there don't   
   seem to be any references to a god called Maugrim in any ancient mythology.   
      
   The original question was why the US publishers of the Narnia stories changed   
   the name of the haad of the secret police from Maugrim to Fenris Ulf, and   
   later changed it back again. The first change appears to have been that they   
   wanted a figure from ancient mythology, and the second appears to have been to   
   keep it more faithful to Lewis's original.   
      
   So the wuestion now is whether there was a figure in ancient mythology called   
   Maugrim.   
      
      
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   Steve Hayes   
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