home bbs files messages ]

Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"

   alt.books.inklings      Discussing the obscure Oxford book club      1,925 messages   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]

   Message 618 of 1,925   
   Derek Broughton to Steve Hayes   
   Re: OT: Humans in Narnia (was Re: Evil E   
   26 Jan 06 11:02:11   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien, alt.books.cs-lewis, rec.arts.books.childrens   
   XPost: rec.arts.sf.written   
   From: news@pointerstop.ca   
      
   Steve Hayes wrote:   
      
   > On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:41:06 -0400, Derek Broughton    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>Steve Hayes wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> There are simply not enough correspondences. Any argument that it is an   
   >>> allegory has more holes than a colander. It just won't hold water.   
   >>   
   >>Does _every_ character in an allegory need to correspond?   
   >   
   > Not necessarily every single one in a one to one correspondence, but the   
   > main characters, yes.   
   >   
   >   I don't think so.   
   >>However, I'll give you Susan & Lucy as Mary & Martha, and Tumnus as   
   >>Lazarus.   
   >   
   > But they don't work as that.   
      
   They work for me :-)   
   >   
   >   Peter & Susan (can a character in an allegory take more than one   
   >>part?) as reluctant converts.  Edmund definitely as Judas.   
   >   
   > But Edmund didn't commit suicide.   
      
   I can't see why that's necessary - we've already established that a strict   
   one-to-one correspondence isn't needed.   
      
   >>The White Witch   
   >>representing the whole of Judaism   
   >   
   > You've GOT to be joking!   
      
   Well, no.  I thought it was my best point :-)  In retrospect, I'll admit   
   that "the whole of" is unreasonable, but "the Jewish leadership" isn't.   
   >   
   >  & Maugrim as Caiaphas.   
   >   
   > And there, too. Maugrim represents Himmler or Beria. Caiaphas acts as a   
   > judge in a religious court, not as the secret police of the occupying   
   > power.   
      
   Caiaphas in the gospels acts as the strong arm of the Jewish leadership,   
   above.  If the Witch stands as I think she does, then Maugrim as Caiaphas   
   works.  Of course if I'm wrong about the Witch, I'm wrong about Maugrim.   
   --   
   derek   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]


(c) 1994,  bbs@darkrealms.ca