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   Message 783 of 1,925   
   Dirk Thierbach to William Cloud Hicklin   
   OT: The usual debate (was: Inklings and    
   15 Apr 07 19:13:46   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien, alt.books.cs-lewis   
   From: dthierbach@usenet.arcornews.de   
      
   William Cloud Hicklin  wrote:   
   > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:19:55 -0400, Dirk Thierbach   
   >  wrote:   
      
   >> This generalization is as wrong as the one with the Crusades   
   >> above. And it doesn't matter one bit that one took place some time   
   >> ago. Wrong is wrong.   
      
   > I'm not sure I would agree.  The eleventh century had entirely different   
   > ideas of wrong.   
      
   I am not talking about the eleventh century, I am talking about someone   
   today, who would try to argue that the Crusades showed the all Christians   
   are only doing God's will, which is to fight against the unbelievers.   
      
   > It really bugs me when people keep holding up the Crusades as some   
   > sort of unique atrocity.   
      
   I sorry if I used an example which "pushed the wrong button". Just in   
   case it is still not clear: I am *not* trying to argue that the   
   Christians are as bad as the Muslims, because they fought a war in the   
   name of religion. I am arguing exactly the contrary: That it is wrong   
   to argue this way, because it is just not the case that one particular   
   interpretation of religion which lead to the Crusades necessarily   
   generalizes to all believers in this faith. If I understand you correctly,   
   you agree with that.   
      
   And in the same way, it doesn't generalize for Muslims: Just because   
   the radicals interpret the Koran to suit their goals, it doesn't mean   
   that *all* Muslim necessarily interpret the Koran this way. And in fact,   
   personal experience shows that many don't.   
      
   - Dirk   
      
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