XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien, alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox
From: hayesmstw@hotmail.com
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:23:13 +0200, "Membranous Gauss"
wrote:
>
>Steve Hayes wrote in message
>news:3fa70cc3.138922620@news.saix.net...
>> On 3 Nov 2003 16:17:17 -0800, yzetta@yahoo.com (zett) wrote:
>>
>> >hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes) wrote in message
>news:<3fa5e149.62244597@news.saix.net>...
>> >> On 1 Nov 2003 18:10:38 -0800, yzetta@yahoo.com (zett) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >For me, the single most fascinating thing in all of Tolkien's writing
>> >> >is the idea of death as a natural part of man, not a punishment for
>> >> >sin.
>> >> >
>> >> >Does anyone know where he might have gotten this idea?
>> >>
>> >> From Christianity?
>> >
>[snip]
>
>>
>> It is possibly something Tolkien got from ancient Greek religion, though
>I'm
>> not sure that the idea of death as a "punishment" is primary in
>Christianity.
>> The real contrast might be death as an enemy, and death as a gift.
>>
>> The primary Christian understanding of death is that it is an enemy --
>"the
>> last enemy to be destroyed is death" (I Cor 15:26), and speaks of Christ
>as
>> the one who "might destroy him who holds the power of death, that is, the
>> devil - and free those who were held in slavery all their lives by the
>fear of
>> death" (Heb 2:14-15).
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>
>Does it not also say in the New Testament: "The wages of sin is Death?"
So it does.
But what is your point?
Are you suggesting that wages are a punishment?
--
Steve Hayes
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