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   From: bredband.net@ojevind.lang   
      
   "Bill Baldwin" skrev i meddelandet   
   news:Xns991DE8B509EF0bbwebpage@130.133.1.4...   
   > darylgene@aol.com (darylgene@aol.com) wrote:   
      
   >> What would you say it means to be a Christian? If it really   
   >> doesn't mean anything other than a person "calls" themselves one,   
   >> I suppose you are correct in questioning my position. To me, at   
   >> least adherence to the first two creeds, however broadly viewed,   
   >> provides the delineation. I am curious where you would draw the   
   >> line, somewhere the beliefs become so different that they   
   >> constitute a wholly different belief system. (no I do not consider   
   >> Unitarians, Mormans and several other groups that call themselves   
   >> "Christian" to be. if that is parochial, so be it, I suppose I am   
   >> parochial then)   
   >   
   > Part of the problem is that people think it's an insult if you say   
   > that this group or that person is "not Christian." Lewis addresses   
   > this when he talks about how "Christian" has become a value judgment   
   > rather than an objective label.   
   >   
   > But things do get complicated when different groups claim the label   
   > and yet differ on what the objective standard is. I guess we just   
   > have to live with that and be clear about what we mean. So we say for   
   > example that Mormons are not Christian and hope that we won't have to   
   > deal with responses that act as though we've called them axe-   
   > murderers or have denied that they would call themselves Christians.   
      
   To my knowledge, Mormons do not regard themselves as Chrsitians, since they   
   think that Joseph Smith was the fourth great Prophet (after Adam, Moses and   
   Jesus.) They call Christians and other non-Mormons "Gentiles".   
      
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