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   Larry Swain (theswain@operamail.com) wrote:   
      
   > Bill Baldwin wrote:   
   >> Larry Swain (theswain@operamail.com) wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>Bill Baldwin wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>Larry Swain (theswain@operamail.com) wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>Second, your examples of the Voodoo priest and Hindus are   
   >>>>>inaccurate. Neither of those claims to worship Jesus as the   
   >>>>>"son of YHWH who appeared to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Moses";   
   >>>>>as for Jews, Muslims, and Chrisitians, they do in fact say that   
   >>>>>they are worshipping the YHWH who appeared to Abraham, Isaac,   
   >>>>>Jacob, and Moses among others and who created all that there   
   >>>>>is, i. e. the same divine being.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Ok, now we have an answer. You believe that the irreducible core   
   >>>>of worship of the God of Abraham can be expressed as you have   
   >>>>just expressed it. Any attempt to cast the net more broadly will   
   >>>>result in bringing disparate worshipers together by a fallacy of   
   >>>>equivocation saying they worship the same God when clearly the   
   >>>>gods they worship differ. Any attempt to draw the lines more   
   >>>>narrowly will result in denying that others who worship the same   
   >>>>God (as you define that term) when in fact they do.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Daryl disagrees with where you draw that line. So do I.   
   >>>   
   >>>On what grounds?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> I can't answer for Daryl. My answer is this. Jesus and the New   
   >> Testament declare that no one can come to the Father except   
   >> through him.   
   >   
   > Jesus in the very late gospel of John says this, yes.  Guess   
   > Abraham and Moses and Isaiah don't make it in your view.   
      
   That's incorrect. I believe I've been clear. I guess you're still   
   having difficulty understanding.   
   --   
   Bill Baldwin   
   http://bettercovenant.wordpress.com/   
      
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