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   From: theswain@operamail.com   
      
   Bill Baldwin wrote:   
   > Jamie Andrews; real address @ bottom of message (me@privacy.net)   
   > wrote:   
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   >>>Christopher Kreuzer (spamgard@blueyonder.co.uk) wrote:   
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   >>>>Larry Swain wrote:   
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   >>>>>Bill Baldwin wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>darylgene@aol.com wrote:   
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   >>What we have here is a failure to communicate.   
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   >   
   > Yeah, I think so. The objections to my view seem (to me) to miss the   
   > point. And it's obvious from the replies (if I'm not presuming too much   
   > in a thread where there's so much misunderstanding) that my objections   
   > seem to the others to miss the point.   
      
      
   Because they do.  The problem is is that you persist to try and identify   
   "true" religion and determine who is and who is not going to heaven in   
   contrast to characterizing a religion without reference to "true" or   
   determining salvation.  Simple as that.   
      
   Now if you want to get down to pointing out to ACTUAL, REAL, HISTORICAL   
   differences between what Muslims say about God that make their divine   
   being a different one from Christianity (and that the majority of   
   Christian thought on this issue through the centuries has just been   
   wrong), I'd be interested in continuing this discussion.  But rather   
   than do that, you persist in coming up with situations that simply do   
   not exist in the real world, or do to such a limited extent as to be   
   meaningless in this discussion.   
      
   On a side note, an Islamic blog that I sometimes read made an argument a   
   while back at how Lion, Witch, and the Wardrobe is a Muslim allegory.   
   Another Islamic blog takes its title from Lewis, and the author says in   
   a post: "Speaking of C. S. Lewis, a couple of months ago a traditional   
   Islamic scholar that I respect immensely recommended reading The   
   Screwtape Letters to the Muslims attending his class. This was done in   
   the context of a discussion about understanding how the Devil works and   
   how he deceives us, and this erudite scholar felt Lewis’ book would be   
   valuable in this regard. I still haven’t read the entire book, but I   
   have read enough to see that it is a unique work that does indeed have   
   some religious value."  If the Muslims are worshipping such a different   
   God how can these devout Muslims comprehend and even accept so much of   
   what Lewis says?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)