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   The Doctor to All   
   Day 285 of My 5th bible Study Journey (2   
   12 Oct 25 18:59:59   
   
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   see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?   
   [31] Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them   
   bread from heaven to eat.   
   [32] Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave   
   you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from   
   heaven.   
   [33] For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth   
   life unto the world.   
   [34] Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.   
   [35] And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me   
   shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.   
   [36] But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.   
   [37] All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to   
   me I will in no wise cast out.   
   [38] For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of   
   him that sent me.   
   [39] And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he   
   hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the   
   last day.   
   [40] And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth   
   the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise   
   him up at the last day.   
   [41] The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which   
   came down from heaven.   
   [42] And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and   
   mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?   
   [43] Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among   
   yourselves.   
   [44] No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him:   
   and I will raise him up at the last day.   
   [45] It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God.   
   Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh   
   unto me.   
   [46] Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath   
   seen the Father.   
   [47] Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath   
   everlasting life.   
   [48] I am that bread of life.   
   [49] Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.   
   [50] This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat   
   thereof, and not die.   
   [51] I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of   
   this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my   
   flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.   
   [52] The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man   
   give us his flesh to eat?   
   [53] Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye   
   eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in   
   you.   
   [54] Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I   
   will raise him up at the last day.   
   [55] For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.   
   [56] He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I   
   in him.   
   [57] As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that   
   eateth me, even he shall live by me.   
   [58] This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did   
   eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.   
   [59] These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.   
      
   The Words of Eternal Life   
      
   60 When they heard this, many of His disciples said,   
   "This is a hard saying. Who can listen to it?"   
   61 Knowing in Himself that His disciples murmured about it,   
   Jesus said to them, "Does this offend you?   
   62 Then what if you see the Son of Man ascend to where He was before?   
   63 It is the Spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing.   
   The words that I speak to you are spirit and are life.   
   64 But there are some of you who do not believe."   
   For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe,   
   and who it was who would betray Him.   
   65 Then He said, "For this reason I have said to you that no one can   
   come to Me unless it were given him by My Father."   
   66 From that time many of His disciples went back and walked no more with Him.   
   67 So Jesus said to the twelve, "Do you also want to go away?"   
   68 Simon Peter answered Him,   
   "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.   
   69 We have believed and have come to know that You are the Christ,   
   the Son of the living God."   
   70 Jesus answered them, "Have I not chosen you, the twelve,   
   and yet one of you is a devil?"   
   71 He spoke of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.   
   For it was he who would betray Him, being one of the twelve.   
      
   [60] Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This   
   is an hard saying; who can hear it?   
   [61] When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said   
   unto them, Doth this offend you?   
   [62] What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?   
   [63] It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the   
   words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.   
   [64] But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the   
   beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.   
   [65] And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me,   
   except it were given unto him of my Father.   
   [66] From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with   
   him.   
   [67] Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?   
   [68] Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the   
   words of eternal life.   
   [69] And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the   
   living God.   
   [70] Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a   
   devil?   
   [71] He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should   
   betray him, being one of the twelve.   
      
   Mark 7:1-23   
      
   Mark 7   
      
   The Tradition of the Elders   
   Mt 15:1-20   
      
   1 (Mk 3:22) The Pharisees and certain scribes who came from Jerusalem   
   gathered around Him.   
   2 (Ac 10:28; Ro 14:14) When they saw some of His disciples eat bread   
   with defiled, that is, ritually unwashed hands, they found fault.   
   3 (Mk 7:13; Gal 1:14) For the Pharisees and all the Jews, unless   
   they wash their hands ritually, do not eat, keeping the tradition   
   of the elders.   
   4 (Mt 23:25; Jn 2:6) When they come from the market, unless they wash,   
   they do not eat. And there are many other traditions which they have   
   received and observe, such as the washing of cups and pitchers   
   and bronze vessels and dining couches.   
   5 So the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, "Why do Your disciples not live   
   according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?"   
   6 (Isa 29:13; Eze 33:31) He answered, "Well has Isaiah prophesied   
   of you hypocrites, as it is written:   
   'These people honor Me with their lips,   
   but their hearts are far from Me.   
   7 (Mt 6:7; Col 2:22) In vain do they worship Me,   
   teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.'-   
   8 (Ge 2:24)For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition   
   of men-the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do."   
   9 (Mk 7:13; Gal 2:21) And He said to them, "You full well reject   
   the commandment of God so that you may keep your own tradition.   
   10 (Ex 20:12; 21:17; Dt 5:16) For Moses said,   
   'Honor your father and your mother,'-   
   11 (Ps 118:22-23.) and, 'Whoever curses father or mother,   
   let him be put to death.'(Ex 21:17; Lev 20:9).   
   11 (Mt 23:18) But you say, 'If a man says to his father or mother,   
   "It is Corban," that is to say, "What you would have profited from me   
   is a gift to God," he shall be free.'   
      
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