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   Robert to All   
   How long will tongues continue to be man   
   19 Oct 25 20:20:03   
   
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   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   This does not apply to tongues solely but to all Gifts of the Spirit.   
      
   How long will tongues continue to be manifested? “Whether there be   
   prophecies, they shall fail: whether there be tongues, they shall cease:   
   whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we   
   prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is   
   in part shall be done away.” I Cor. 13:8-10. The phrase, “when that which   
   is perfect is come,” is translated from the Greek phrase “τὸ   
   τέλειον ”. The word “teleion” is a singular neuter term which   
   refers to Jesus Christ. Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon, p. 618, defines the   
   phrase “τὸ τέλειον ” as used in I Cor. 13:10: “The perfect   
   state of all things, to be ushered in by the return of Christ from heaven.”   
      
   , substantively, that which is perfect: consummate human integrity and   
   virtue. Ro.xii. 2 [al. take it here as an adj. belonging to Oéhnpa]; the   
   perfect state of all things, to be ushered in by the return of. Christ from   
   heaven, 1 Co.xiii. 10; of men, full-grown, adult; of full age, mature,   
      
   There are only seven times in the NT is the word used.   
      
   1 Corinthians 13:10 Adj-ANS   
      
   GRK: ἔλθῃ   
   τὸ τέλειον τὸ ἐκ   
      
   NAS: but when the perfect comes,   
      
   KJV: when that which is perfect is come,   
      
   INT: might come that which is perfect that in   
      
   Paul said, “Now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now   
   I know in part: but then (when that which is perfect is come) shall I know   
   even as also I am known.” I Cor. 13:12. This speaks to all of us, the   
   believers, when we are resurrected/transformed from this world into the next.   
      
   He who stands face to face in the presence of God, there will be no need for   
   prophecies, tongues and knowledge. But until that which is perfect (Jesus   
   Christ) is come, that which is in part will remain. And as long as there   
   remains prophecies and knowledge, tongues shall not cease. So Paul instructed   
   the church to COME BEHIND IN NO GIFT, WAITING FOR THE COMING OF OUR LORD   
   JESUS CHRIST. I Cor. 1:7.   
      
   Look in Thayer’s Lexicon of 1877 p 618   
      
   Did I receive this from the Lord, first? Yes, he gave my the understanding of   
   it, as he also has given it to many others.   
      
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   1Co 13:1 If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but I do not have   
   love, I have become as sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.   
      
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   “Love has patience, is kind; love is not envious; love is not vain, is not   
   puffed up; does not behave indecently, does not pursue its own things, is not   
   easily provoked, thinks no evil; does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but   
   rejoices in the truth. Love quietly covers all things, believes all things,   
   hopes all things, endures all things.” (1Co 13:4-7)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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